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Author:  Hustle_23 [ Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Day 2 Flaking

I'm running into the same problem here. When I number-close with girls that I've only met for half hour or less, I get flaked on a ton. Like over 50%. I understand some chicks give our their numbers to be nice so I'm not expecting a date from 99% of these women, but I gotta be doing something wrong here. I have decent text game and keep it fun/flirty/charming, but not getting the results I want.

I find the longer I "game" them before getting the number, the more likely they will agree to a 2nd meeting.

Any advice? Also, do you guys have this same problem? What's a realistic flaking percent?

Author:  glowstik [ Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:15 pm ]
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h yes I have this problem. The more milestones you hit with your HB via text the more likely you will get a day 2. A first time flake / first time availability trip up are obstacle to overcome before you get that "first date/hangout"

It's OK to hint at thinking about your new texting girl, or wanting to hang out AS LoNG as those debits into your overall value are equally returned by your HB through reciprocating interest.

You know you are on your way when she tells you about her availabilty... if your text game isn't getting to those areas don't reward any texts until you get on the right path.

Author:  RonnPaul [ Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:41 am ]
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Yeah, i can relate to this. You want to build comfort with her, you want her to relate to you. Now, its hard to do that when you n/close her in couple of minutes, even though sometimes girl will not flake on you, so everything is possible. As you make progress in the game, you wont get that much flakes, but while you are a newbie, be happy with any n/close. And you know, approach a lot of women, dont be needy.

Author:  Hustle_23 [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:56 pm ]
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Good points. Any suggestions on building comfort in texts without appearing needy and texting too much?

Also, any general guidelines on how many texts it should take until you can ask for a 2nd day hangout?

Thanks.

Author:  Hustle_23 [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:40 am ]
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I believe I have solved my problem with regards to 2nd day flaking. Basically, you need to end the exchange on a positive note, and leave her wanting more, rather than getting the number at a low point. Timing is everything. As obvious as this sounds, it's tougher to apply in-field. Here's a routine I pulled immediately after a n-close, called the French Goodbye (for a video example, youtube Cajun on Keys to the VIP, he pulls it off perfectly at the end of his 2nd challenge and it's also where I stole it from - thank-you Cajun or whoever invented it).

After you get the number, ask her if she knows what a french goodbye is. If she says no, tell her it's two kisses on both cheeks and point to your cheek and move it close to her so she can kiss you. After she finishes the 2nd cheek, pull her in for a hug, say something like "you're such a sweetheart/cutie" and then say "I'm definitely gonna call you". Then exit. You just finished on a high note, leaving her wanting more. Is this gamebreaking? Of course not, but it's an easy routine that leaves her wanting more, and thus more likely to get you a 2nd hangout.

Field tested, it worked, got a 2nd date easy and the chick was 10X more receptive in text messages. Best of luck out there gentlemen!

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