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| Author: | antony0 [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:27 pm ] |
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Hey guys, great to meet you all. I'm from the UK, studying PUA like crazy and made a commitment to be out in pubs/clubs twice a week until I master this! I've also been really immersed in NLP etc (not just knowing it, I use it every day) and consider myself quite knowledgeable in communication and had my success in business. Now what is different about me, I have a physical disability! I can walk and talk rather well, but use a power chair for long distances. When in social situations I prefer to dump my chair and walk around, I'm not ashamed of it, I just find it bloody hard to talk to people when I'm 2 feet under them. I'm interested in what you think about this choice? Now to get to my biggest sticking point, my voice! It just sucks, I can be understood pretty well in quiet environments but in noisy pubs where it's already bloody hard it gets challenging. And going up to a random girl and saying a huge line then not being understood is just a nightmare! Up until recently I hated approaching and couldn't do it at all. I'm getting better though and even when up to 2 girls full of anxiety and just said 'fuck me', but shit, they chatted to me for 30mins after that!! I have another one I want to try, but haven't managed to yet. 'excuse me, can I ask you a question, I have a disability, and I want to get laid tonight, what do you think I should do?' - what do you reckon any good as a direct one? When I'm really in my zone and confident, I am naturally really cocky and funny, and blending more PUA elements into it I'm really confident I could take a girl home if I get in my zone and past approach more often. So my biggest question and sticking point is how do I really get over my approach challenge 100%, how do I deal with my obvious physical difference and shit voice? Secondly, it's all about DHV, but there's a small part of me that thinks she can have a physically normal guy, why pick the disabled one. What do you think? I am definitely getting better. For example I used to hate being in a bar on my own but now I actually enjoy it and feel confident as I'm there to enjoy myself! I have to take this to the next level though. |
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| Author: | PUADude2012 [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:17 pm ] |
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Dude, if Sean Stephenson can do it, what's stopping you? (I'm not allowed to post URLs yet but search YouTube for "Sean Stephenson man transformation.) Sounds like you're making big progress in overcoming your setbacks; I see no reason why you won't continue to make progress. |
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| Author: | antony0 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:12 pm ] |
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Thanks, I know about Sean, the biggest thing like I said is that my voice isn't always the easiest to understand. Sean's voice isn't affected by his disability. Once I get over approach I'm getting really good at escalating. Do you guys have any advice for me approaching bearing in mind I'm not the easiest person to understand initially? |
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| Author: | antony0 [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:43 pm ] |
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Hey guys, any thoughts on the above? |
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| Author: | Chinopants [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:56 pm ] |
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Just a thought but why not be funny. I think the hardest part on there end is that they don't know how to approach someone who is different. If you can lower their awkwardness and let them know that your laid back fun. Also go out with people it makes for pick up and getting a social setting opener easy. Also get a wing girl. It can be a sister or cousin or even some on platonic. I personally like to use one of my girls or a past lover to help me pick up girls. Also If you don't make a big deal out of your disability neither with they. Mine is that I am short. I do not even think about it much when I get my game on. |
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| Author: | antony0 [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:43 pm ] |
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I'm getting better at being funny and relaxed in myself from the get go, I'm getting over caring if they understand me or not. I love a supportive wingman but I'm actually finding better results on my own as no one is watching. A wing girl is a cool thing though and haven't tried it yet. Day game? Out and about in my chair, Starbucks, waitresses, on the train, the street. This is a piece I'm still working on approaching and saying something 'out there', especially if we are stuck in proximity ie next to me on a plane. Advice really appreciated? Why am I improving in bars and not here yet? |
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| Author: | Mr. Marville [ Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:51 pm ] |
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Obviously, because women in a bar are, like 9 out of 10 times, more in the mindset of finding a boyfriend or maybe just a one night stand. |
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| Author: | Hustle_23 [ Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:11 pm ] |
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I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but is the reason you're voice not up to part a part of your disability? If not, there are tons of ways to improve it that you can find all over this forum. You seem like an intelligent dude, so you must realize that although women are extremely similar, they also have varying tastes in what they look for in a man. Maybe being the muscular alpha male won't mix with your style for getting chicks. Then fuck that, use a different approach. Be the mysterious/intelligent/suave James Bond type. Also, if you have a quiet voice, the bar scene automatically puts you at a disadvantage. Try places like coffee shops/bookstores/etc. where you can have a normal conversation without yelling. If you've got confidence and some openers and have conversation skills, just simply practice approach after approach in places like these. "Secondly, it's all about DHV, but there's a small part of me that thinks she can have a physically normal guy, why pick the disabled one. What do you think?" That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. By thinking this, you're setting it up to be true, and you're painting yourself into a corner. Take the opposite approach. She's already had the physically normal guy and she's still single. You're different. Pickup is about standing out in a crowd. Without changing a thing about you, you're peacocking! Use this to your advantage. Best of luck bud. I'm rooting for you. |
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| Author: | Entourages [ Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:58 pm ] |
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Make fun of your disability, the best way to increase your status is to make your disabilities (in your case you actually have a more serious one) the least part of your persona. For example, I am short, sometimes I go into sets with big guys, and I mean like double my width and prob 5+ inches on me. So I make fun of the situation, fucking hell I look like a smurf compared to these guys, or shit did I just get thrown back into the land of oz, where the hell are these lollipop munchkins I need something to snack on. In your case you can bring that up, not only am I fucking bound to a chair all day, I sound like SPAM addicted to cigarettes, or al pachino or that lesbian dike in las vegas who always has one more quarter. |
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