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| Author: | newpua2012 [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Keeping conversations flowing? |
Hi, I really suck with conversations with women. I can Approach, 0-5% AA not even.... But I can't keep talking long. I try openers/joke/or something. Lately been talking to a lot more women, kino some, and tease. But just cannot keep a "conversation" going long. I know I could CAN be a good PUA if I just can keep a conversation flowing. I have the mind set, and the confidence. For example when I talk to a woman. I met this one girl twice now, really nice but when I say something she gets off track and loses interest. I made a ton of statements and kept her talking for 10 minutes. Then opened my trap for 20 seconds and she lost interest. I have done this with other women and it happen also. So I see it is best for me to keep quite and let her do 80-90/and me 10-20% talking. My problem with women is keeping new conversations. I talked women about, her life passion/work/hobies/what they want in life. The thing is they will talk for a bit then stop. How do I keep it more interesting? Then how do you keep it interesting the next time you see her? You already talked about those subjects... I known a few women for months now, and every time we talk its like HI, how was your week? then nothing. I already know their story, nothing else to know.. I tried using the ring talk, but she only wears like 1 ring and cannot use that really. I like the pinky and thumb ring game, more interesting. She has a natrual dirty blond so its hard to make neg her. |
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| Author: | Loveu18 [ Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:05 am ] |
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If u ask her how was her week and she tells u "it was find" y don't u try asking what made it a find week? Maybe she might say " I when swimming which was fun, when over to see my family and we played soccer" She just give u 3 different things to talk about. All u have to do is relax when ur talking to women,listen to them when they r talking n remember that pickup is suppose to be fun. |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:50 pm ] |
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You can try nouning-which is picking out keywords she says and having her expound upon them. Or try going natural and just small talk her. Don't get too caught up in routines and DHV games, especially if you are having problems implementing them properly. Ask her questions like: "What do you like to do for fun?" "Where are you from?" Get her opinion about current events. But beward of derailment into DLV territory. I was asking this girl what she did recently and she said she saw a musical. I kept going on that topic but then she asked what my favorite musicals were, which is not something I know much about, nor should a guy be talking about gay stuff like musicals. I should've cut that bad thread earlier but I went too far with it and DLV'd myself and kind of killed the conversation. |
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| Author: | newpua2012 [ Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:51 am ] |
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This is good stuff guys, I never thought about "what made it fine" for a week. These are great openers when I talk to a woman but how do I just keep it going and going like an hour dinner or something? O.o thats scary stuff. I am sure if I took a woman to the zoo I could keep her mind entertained a bit joking at the animals. |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:29 pm ] |
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Keeping the conversation going is what the game is all about. Because it's all reliant upon you, the pua. It's not easy to do. That's why you need to know the principles of the game, study routines and techniques, and elevate your inner game. Cold reading can help too, though I suck at that. It allows you to engage her in relevant topics of conversation by simply guessing or assuming that it applies to her in some way. Try this. Do a little cold reading. Then when you hit a dead end, ask her opinion about something. Maybe politics, current events, something you saw on tv. Then when that hits a dead end, tell a personal DHV story. Then when that hits an end, ask her about some experience she had or some interesting story she can tell you. Also, have a couple jokes you can tell and use those when the conversation gets too serious or boring. That will liven it up a bit. Style (Strauss) says to leave open ends on conversational topics, which you can then go back to later. Basically you start talking about something, divert slightly off topic into something else, then return to the original subject. You can leave lots of open ends in your conversation like that and then go back to them later to help fill time. It's the same techniques comedians use when they have a running joke within their routine. |
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