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| Author: | elgordo [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:50 pm ] |
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Tuesday: I kissed a colleague today. We were kissing when we were alone during the day away from the rest of the crew but when I wanted to kiss her on the way back home she said she had broken her fast and didnt want to kiss untill the end of Ramadan? She is muslim. Did I do something wrong, is she experiencing buyer's remorse? What should I do? I'm okay with waiting 11 days for her untill Ramadan is over but I don't want to be held on a string if she is just using it as an excuse. Wednesday: Okay shit hit the fan, today i came to work and her family (mother, aunt, sister etc) were yelling at my boss. She is not allowed to come to work anymore. I tried calling her and normally she picks up, but it went to voicemail. What to do now? I really like this girl. |
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| Author: | TheSeagull [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:55 pm ] |
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it seems like you hit a pretty huge religion/culture wall. I think there is very little you can do. apparently her family has a strong social conditioning that she should date a "nice muslim guy" and she is not willing/strong enough to break that social conditioning. so, you broke the rules of her culture, and her family saw you as an external danger. they are shielding the girl from you, and she is probably ok with it. in a different situation, you might have slowly worked your way in her life, giving her a great time, making her fall in love & attached to you regardless of her quest for the nice muslim guy. would it have worked long term? God* only knows! * I will leave to you the choice of which God, if any. EDIT this is assuming you are not a muslim. if you are, you might want to walk to her family, beg forgiveness for the forbidden kiss, state the purity honesty and innocence of your intentions. hope they let you see the chick again. and then proceed to game her, keeping in mind that until she is very strongly attached to you, or you create lots of plausible deniability, you need to play by the Qur'an. |
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| Author: | elgordo [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:37 pm ] |
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She works at a clothes store, I want to go there when she works and talk with her. She left her shawl in the car so I have to give it to her anyways. I really like this girl, i'm not a muslim, yet.. But I have looked into becoming one. |
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| Author: | TheSeagull [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:06 am ] |
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you are probably going to hit a wall. and I think the "returning the shawl" line will not work very well. what I would do at this point is write a letter and leave it at her workplace. say how you are sorry you broke her religious duties, that you deeply value and respect her faith and traditions, and that you would like a second chance to make things work with her, this time by following the proper rules, etc etc... and attach the shawl to said letter. to me, it seems like a lot of work. a potential failure. lots of energy for little reward. if you are not considering marrying this chick, I would gladly "next". |
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| Author: | elgordo [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:32 am ] |
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The letter is a good idea, but im trying to avoid putting things in writing (I dont even text her for that reason) so that nobody will find out what happened to protect her. I am the first guy she ever kissed, I feel responsible for her now so can't let her go even though that would be the easy way. But what if it was just a fling for her, that she just felt lust and didnt want to go through with me, how can i test that? How can i test for buyer's remorse and if she really loves me? |
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| Author: | TheSeagull [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:21 pm ] |
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Quote: if she really loves me?
reality check: this girl does not love you. you barely kissed her. why on heart would you expect her to love you? bang her good for a few months, be her best friend, partner in crime, lover, share emotions with her. then maybe she will love you.if you feel like you love her, it's probably oneitis. best cured by FTOW. |
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| Author: | oldskoolpunk [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Troubles arising dating muslim girl |
Quote: today i came to work and her family (mother, aunt, sister etc) were yelling at my boss. She is not allowed to come to work anymore. I tried calling her and normally she picks up, but it went to voicemail. What to do now?
Move on. Huge cultural gap here. If you didn't see the risk of this, you're clueless enough that anything you do now will probably make it worse.
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| Author: | elgordo [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:43 am ] |
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She texted: "call me" I called her and said lets meet. We had a good talk, and agreed to wait untill the end of Ramadan and we still have feelings i will go ask her family to take her out. Would appreciate advice/suggestions |
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| Author: | raw111 [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:51 am ] |
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Believe it or not some girls just want to be friends. Quote: She texted: "call me" I called her and said lets meet. We had a good talk, and agreed to wait untill the end of Ramadan and we still have feelings i will go ask her family to take her out.
She will drag this out for a long time and then eventually choose her religion and good relations with her parents over you.Its not worth the effort for a few nights or temporary lust phase.Would appreciate advice/suggestions Dating does not exist in Islam. Your forcing her to make a choice between you and her faith which is unethical and She may even give up working just to be free from male advancements so she can remain true to values and beliefs she has.Which would be your fault. Even if you were Muslim, all you would get is a 30 minute conversation with a Chaperone in the room for most of the time and then your mother asks her mother and father if you can get married.If she had a good 30 minutes she says yes or no. You both have to be practising muslims. Strangely love marriages have a higher rate of divorce than arranged marriages.Because people in lust tend to overlook things they later argue about. |
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| Author: | elgordo [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:08 am ] |
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rationally it doesnt make much sense, but im afraid if i dont take this oppertunity that i wont ever find a girl to have a family with. I've been fat all my life and now that i lost alot of weight i suddenly get attention from girls, and then to feel loved by her just makes me afraid that if i break up with her i wont ever find love again, if that makes sense. I have what i ever wanted now, a girl to replicate with and love. All i need to do is sign at the dotted line but im afraid i am making a big mistake. |
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| Author: | elgordo [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:03 pm ] |
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Okay i like her, but i dont love her. I want to go out as friends but first i must disqualify myself as a potential partner. How do i make her lose her interest in me? but still go out as friends, my plan is to become the nice guy afc and just be nice to her, but i dont let her have sex with me or hug me or kiss me, but im afraid that only sparks interest. Today i kissed her and then denied her sex, she went nuts, she was begging me. I dont want her to, i want her to stop seeing me as a lust object or see me as a partner, i want to quit the relationship but i still like her because she is a good girl and want to depart as friends and leave her better than i left her, how do i do that? |
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| Author: | elgordo [ Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:17 pm ] |
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How do i end this relationship? I haven't heard from her for a week, and her phone goes straight to voicemail. What is the best way to end this relationship, go to the store she works and break up there or should I just date other women and not contact her ever again not even to end the relationship? |
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| Author: | WAMaroon [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:47 pm ] |
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If your really serious about breaking up with her, just dont visit her anymore and let her leave your life. Its not rude and wanting this final confrontation and closure which would bring attention to the relationship would just complicate things for her (unless that is what you want). I may be wrong since Im still new to this stuff myself but it sounds from your posts that you still have feelings for this girl and I dont think she has the same feelings. Even if she did like you, there are cultural barriers she is unwilling to cross and im not sure your willing to cross either. Instead of building up unnecessary drama by confronting her at her workplace and telling her you want to breakup, just phase her out (delete her number from your phone!!!!) and focus on your own life. |
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