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Author:  fink_2ice [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Date #4 - still no kiss
Hey people - hope you're all cool.

The situation is as the subject reads, in a nutshell.

The 4th date was a few days ago, on Sunday which she actually organised - she wanted to show me around some of her favourite places in town.

I am really inexperienced for a 32 yr old man. I've stayed away from relationships/dating for too long due to a couple of bad experiences in the past which I am now over and I am stronger.

Anyway this girl I am dating, I met through e-harmony the dating website. The match is pretty good, we have a lot in common etc. and she is sexy.. but

She is like 1-foot shorter than me and this I think is a reason for why I haven't been able to kiss her after 4 dates.

I mean there is greater opportunity for sexual tension and chemistry if our face/lips were closer to each other - which would be the case with a taller girl. But her height means that she is often too far away.

I have built comfort through touching but I guess I haven't yet touched her in a sensual way such as keeping my hand on the small of her back as she walks in front of me, or holding her hand/waist.

I think my chances of creating something fade the longer we go without kissing.

The other challenge I am facing is that I am generally easy going, someone who takes his time and thinks before he talks. She on the other hand is very talkative and I think this impedes my ability to slow the conversation down and bring my voice tone down to a more seductive tone.

I guess I am finding it hard to seduce this girl - how can I seduce her as naturally as possible? I am not a gimicky guy and I can't pull off silly tricks.

I want to escalate the sexual tension in this situation because I want to know how great the chemistry is between us.

Any suggestions/pointers will be appreciated..
Author:  TheSeagull [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:32 pm ]
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I feel you are quickly headed for the friend-zone, and in a few weeks a guy is going to laugh at you while banging the chick.

How to prevent this? KISS the girl.
look around the forum for "kino". therein lies the answer.
Author:  Wall1e [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:11 pm ]
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don't EVER wait too long. happened to me. Result because i waited too long:
My friend got the girl. Me frustrated. So just like seagull said: KISS HER MAN! Show her that u have confidence, show her that u like her, that u want to know her, that u want to eventually f*ck her, show her your interest. Don't hide it. Why hide it? How can she be attracted to you, if she doesn't know u are attracted to her?

And please do it before someone else does it.
Author:  Snatch88 [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:39 pm ]
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Okay first of all , to me it looks like your giving yourself an excuse for not kissing her.. She is a foot shorter, Come on, like that means something!
I'm 5'10 and kissed a girl who is 6'4 LoL.
But okay, I would say you waited to long, but the brightside is she must like you because she is still going on dates with you!
I would say do something really romantic , like a nice dinner in a good restaurant or at your home! Why romantic ? because you didnt kiss her, and now she has to know you really like her! okay at the table you chit-chat and take her hands ,do some palm reading or say she has nice nails whatever! place your legs close to hers touch them once in a while, say she has nice hair touch it KINO! Okay during your diner conversation keep making eye contact ,first short, then a bit longer after a while say something whispering ,keep eye contact !! she leans in, you lean in, keep looking in to her eyes! go for the kiss! Don't let your inner coward win!
If she might pull back give her a little Neg , But keep the conversation going ,and try again after 5 minutes or so..
A Bit AFC but you gotta risk something in life ;)
Good luck!

Ps :if she starts licking her lips or biting them, good chance she wants to be kissed !!
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:57 pm ]
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Hey dude, I'm 6'4", and I've been with short gymnasts 5'1" and 5'2. This tactic I'm about to tell you is not necessarily the way to kiss close her, but it's a way that you can kiss a short girl which she'll think is cute, and it makes up for the height differential.

Stairs. Now this can be indoors or outdoors. Any staircase will do. Even steps on a porch will work fine. Basically just position yourself on the stairs so she is one or two steps higher than you. You can just stand at the bottom and let her start to walk up, then turn her around. Guess what, now she is as tall as you! This will be a shock to her as she's used to looking up at you. Now you're eye to eye, she feels safe, empowered, and intrigued. It's funny, cute, whimsical, and most important, PRACTICAL. Now you can stand their and kiss her without having to bend over awkwardly with your feet far apart looking like Bambi trying drink water out of a pond!

Oh yea, forgot to mention, you also can't be afraid to kiss the fucking girl at that point either.
Author:  SikGun [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:11 pm ]
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Ok man I gotta say all these guys are right in everything they are saying! Please in the future, this is for yourself. Don't give yourself excuses why you can't kiss her. You'll only be tricking yourself. You don't have to always kiss standing up. But sometimes deep eye contact while looking down into her eyes and slowing down your voice can be quite powerful. Be more dominant in the talking stage before kissing her. Take control and set the pace of the conversation.
Use the triangle method. Left eye, right eye and then lips. Look into them respectively couples of times. Then if she's looking at your lips go for it.
Oh and if you've got the balls to do it, the spontaneous kiss. Never underestimate the power of spontaneously kissing her.

Peace,
SikGun
Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:03 pm ]
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Quote:
Hey dude, I'm 6'4", and I've been with short gymnasts 5'1" and 5'2. This tactic I'm about to tell you is not necessarily the way to kiss close her, but it's a way that you can kiss a short girl which she'll think is cute, and it makes up for the height differential.

Stairs. Now this can be indoors or outdoors. Any staircase will do. Even steps on a porch will work fine. Basically just position yourself on the stairs so she is one or two steps higher than you. You can just stand at the bottom and let her start to walk up, then turn her around. Guess what, now she is as tall as you! This will be a shock to her as she's used to looking up at you. Now you're eye to eye, she feels safe, empowered, and intrigued. It's funny, cute, whimsical, and most important, PRACTICAL. Now you can stand their and kiss her without having to bend over awkwardly with your feet far apart looking like Bambi trying drink water out of a pond!

Oh yea, forgot to mention, you also can't be afraid to kiss the fucking girl at that point either.
This is an excellent example.

I'll not repeat what has already been said, but the lip biting is a very good sign if you spot it, same with any other submissive behaviour. The longer you leave it the deeper into the friendzone you'll get.

Don’t be afraid to pull the trigger my friend, if that’s the thing holding you back, this may help and intergrate it into the steps idea.
Just remember to build some of that comfort and tension first.

*Credit goes to Mystery*
When she's in the middle of talking - interrupt her (not rudely) and say "shhh... you talk too much... do you want to kiss me?" *you could put your finger on her lips on the "shhh..." part if you like* (she'll show she isn't comfortable or backoff before you finish this line, so its a good final kino test).

You'll have 4 main outcomes:-

Yes or any positive IOI's - GO FOR IT!
I dunno/Maybe... Respond "Well... let’s find out - Come here" (Swallow that pride and take lead)
No Respond "Hey! I didn't say you could... you just seem to have something else on your mind" (Then progress with the rest of the interaction)
Not here - Respond "I Understand..." *with a playful smile or wink* and isolate.

Hope this helps
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