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Author:  Markov79 [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:37 pm ]
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I've been seeing this chick for a few days and when we kiss she is very shy and doesn't really open up and go for a full-on makeout session.

She just kind of pecs me like a little girl?

My breath is fine, I kiss her very softly-nothing gross or anything.

I KNOW for a fact she's a party girl that used to makeout with tons of guys in clubs, and I mean make out hard.

Why is she more shy with me when we kiss at my place?

I know she may want to take it slow, but come on...

What can I do to make her open up a bit?
Author:  Roads [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:57 pm ]
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Two possibilities based on the limited info you provided:

1) (70% probability) You are too AFC with her. Sorry bro, but the little pecks amount to IODs. You need to game her hard, run DHV routines, kino, hell go see other girls and have her see you with them.

2) (30% probability) She's REALLY into you and wants to do it "right" in her mind. If you are looking for a long term prospect, then just keep at it, pushing a little further each time. But realize that there's a difference between going slow and being a chump. If you see her making out with guys in clubs and bars still, while she's giving you these little pecks, the message should be pretty clear.

Remember, kino all the way. Just get her used to touching you and liking your touch. That is the most important factor before going for a kiss. You can have all the mental and emotional connection in the world, but if you have barely touched each other before the kiss, it's gonna be hard.
Author:  Markov79 [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:04 pm ]
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We do touch a lot and kino and what not. Maybe I need to touch her elsewhere-differently...
Author:  The Wild One [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:40 pm ]
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Sounds like she's not comfortable with you yet. Is this girl shy? Answer honestly.
Author:  Markov79 [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:55 pm ]
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Sounds like she's not comfortable with you yet. Is this girl shy? Answer honestly.

Well she's a big party girl, so no she's not shy in general.

But after the 1st time we kissed the next day she gave me this big speech about she's the type of girl that wait weeks and weeks before having sex and all...

She wants to see me and stuff and calls me a lot, wants to sleep next to me and everything but the kissing is too soft....And when she kisses me like that she always has this smile and all like she's playing....

I'm getting tired of this....she wants to come over to my place tonight, if she's still cold kissing-wise I'm going to ignore her a bit...


I guess she's just not interested in me?
Author:  Roads [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:41 am ]
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I guess she's just not interested in me?
Don't jump to conclusions. Remember the two distinct possibilities from above. Before doing a freeze out, be straight forward with her. Tell her you are a man, and that you have feelings. Tell her the way you feel, and give her hints that if she continues toying and playing so slow, you have other women pining for your attention. Do not come off as needy, just say this to her matter of factly, like you were talking about the weather.
Author:  Natural Peacock [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:55 am ]
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this could be because of the LOCATION you are attempting. Try something completely private like in your car. She may just be wanting to avoid PDAs. try gently nibbling on her bottom lip. its like foreplay for the mouth.
Author:  x3dxFox [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:38 am ]
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Im going with roads, either she wants you to get bored and go away or she wants to do things right.

my best idea is to pull out for 3 or 4 days(DHV, you dont need her) and see if she calls you. if she does call she is into you, if not move on
Author:  Markov79 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:11 pm ]
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Well the thing is she does call me often when I don't call her and wants to see me a lot.

Last night she was much less shy and more open, but even then I brought up the ''issue'' and she was surprised and found it funny-cute on my part...She responsed by kissing me a lot more immediately after and doing so in a more proper way :D

When I told her it felt like we were 8 years olds kissing she kind of took it personally and thought I was dissing her kissing skills;)

She told me she was a bit shy at first but that she's more and more comfy with me....which would explain why she has been sleeping over at my place these last few days.
Author:  Markov79 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:14 pm ]
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Im going with roads, either she wants you to get bored and go away or she wants to do things right.

my best idea is to pull out for 3 or 4 days(DHV, you dont need her) and see if she calls you. if she does call she is into you, if not move on
She doesn't want me to go away because she keeps calling me, coming over my place, etc...


I guess she's trying to make me thing she's a ''good girl'' or something. Bleah
Author:  Paramour [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:48 pm ]
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It sounds like to me that, she likes you and cares for you. Which is all more the reason why she was holding back because some girls need that comfort zone. They need reasurance. If you did indeed sit her down and talk to her about how you feel about certain issues of the relationship, then perhaps that shifted you into her comfort zone. Alot of guarded women are like this for a reason. Most have different reasons.
Author:  PrettyBoy41 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:03 pm ]
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just something to add onto what everyone else has said, try a place that SHE is more comfortable in. your apartment, your car, probably not places she is very familiar with, and perhaps not entirely comfortable in. try her place, or just private places she is familiar with.
Author:  Lone Wolf [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:19 pm ]
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Well I absolutely hate it when girls do that, because I love making out and so far every girl I've been with says I'm a great kisser and I think so as well. But I can't stand it when a girl doesn't open mouth kiss so I do a few thing to try to get her to do it.
When she doesn't want to make out I simply back off , tough her face gently and then kiss her cheek and move slowly down to the neck and then I basically french kiss her neck. Then I increase the pace a bit and move up to her cheek and to the side all the way to her ear. (This is where you will really turn her on) You kiss and suck on her earlobe and lick just slightly inside of her ear but do it gently and it will give her the chills. Kiss her ear and she will hear the sucking of your lips right on her ear.
After that I usually don't have any problem with open mouth kissing her because she is so turned on and I turn up the pace a little bit while kissing. It escalates very well too. :D

This italian girl I've been sleeping with goes absolutely nuts and that's all it takes for her to get insanely turned on.
Author:  Echo [ Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:46 pm ]
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Pick a good location (i.e., a club where drunkards are spilling their beers on her shirt is probably not it; neither is the alley with a homeless guy taking a dump... you get the point). Take her in your arms. Look her straight in the eye, smile a little (so you don't creep her out with your death stare), put one arm around her waist, take your other hand and brush it along her hair/neckline around her neck and towards her upper back, hold gently, lean in and JUST KISS HER, man.

Given all the IOIs you've gotten, if the above fails, she is what is called "intimately unavailable" due to some emotional hangover she is going through. In which case, just walk away. It's a waste of time.
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