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| Author: | cartman11 [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Russian women!!! can someone help me ? |
Hi guys i been gaming some russian latly and it just seem that first they get offended very quickly with negs and seem they dont have a sence of humour, my game is all based on humour wich seem that i am not getting good result with Russian women . what's wrong ?? |
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| Author: | Loveu18 [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:47 pm ] |
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Y did u neg her? Was she acting like shes the shit? If not than negging isn't needed but do tease her when she does something dorky. Another thing is how much do u know about this girl? I wanna guess she's a seductress because I'm spend lots of time with girls who are suductress. Is she someone who is really into getting n protecting her Career, is she someone who Is really independent and want to earn things? If yes she's what we call a realist 2. Does she have more than 1 tatoo, is she comfortable with talking bout sex with people she doesn't know like that, does she drink or smoke? If she's any of those things than shes most likely a justifier. 3. Is she surrounded by lots of guy friends thanks girl friends? If yes she's a tester If shes all of what I just listed than shes a suductress. This combination makes her a very confident, sexual, independent woman. She is a Diva – not in the dramatic sense (she is very level-headed) – but in the sense that she is strong, sexy, and has a presence that intimidates a lot of men. That’s good news for any guy reading this, as you can move forward confidently. Simply understanding her and knowing how to handle her is massively attractive, as she sees most men as weak and insecure. This is very frustrating to her, as she is very horny, but also very career-focused. She doesn’t have time to coddle egos. In sense, her attitude screens out the weak. If you can keep your cool, not get emotionally needy, and take care of her needs sexually, she will be a wild woman – one of the all-time greats in your little black book. BUT, if you get upset when she is too busy to see you, or you appear nervous when talking with her, she will move on. She is not the kind of woman you can win back. Once she spots weakness, she is gone, and will never see you the same way again. This doesn’t mean she is cold-hearted. She just needs a man. You don’t have to be super confident, or a stud in bed. You just have to keep your cool, and be giving in bed. If you are inexperienced, this woman would love to teach you how to please her. Her Desires Notice that most of this relationship is about sex. That’s because she doesn’t have time for much else. She probably isn’t looking for anything serious and thinks dating is silly. She wants a man who is her friend, her homeboy, respects her time, admires her intelligence and talent, and fucks her when she needs it. Not a bad job description… Ironically, this is the best way to end up in a serious relationship with her. And the relationship terms will be optimal if you are a guy who is on his own path and has career and life goals. She won’t demand a lot of your time. Mutual respect for each other’s goals is the foundation for a longterm relationship. She wants the ongoing experience of seducing you. She feels powerful when she can use her beauty, energy, and skill to turn you on. She likes to perpetually chase, but not in a schoolgirl way. Seducing a man is how she gets her power fix. Throughout the week, she will need an ego boost, and will need to feel sexy. She gets high knowing that a man is hungry for her, not because he is just horny, but because of something she did to excite him. WE have some some great techniques to get her in that state. How She Gets What She Wants The Seductress is surrounded by horny guys. She is sexy and confident, and men are handing their balls over left and right (pun intended). This is boring. She enjoys the attention to a degree – it’s better to be wanted than unwanted. But she is looking for a guy that is a challenge. The degree of chasing here is different from the Playette and the Social Butterfly. You don’t have to tease her. You don’t have to play any games. By staying calm and talking to her like a normal person (no lines, smooth talk, or buying drinks), you look like a challenge simply by contrast (to all the other clowns chasing her). Typically she will show interest in you at this point. She has no problem taking the lead when she wants something (you). The Seductress has no problem with sex. Her confidence in her ability to seduce and satisfy a man eliminates any fear of appearing easy or slutty. She’s not a slut, she’s a Seductress. A slut sleeps with men for attention. She sleeps with men because she enjoys it. A slut gets used. A Seductress uses men! As Charlie Sheen would say, that’s hot. The Seductress may at some point want a family, but she knows that in this day and age, a women can’t rely on men to support them. She believes in being independent and paying her own bills. She is likely not going to be satisfied staying home until after she’s had kids. However, as with all women, she has the need to nurture her man in order to strengthen the bond. She does this by helping in practical ways (Realist). She can help you make professional connections to get your business off the ground. She likely knows a lot of people and has a good amount of influence in her field. Let her help you, challenge her to seduce you, never lose your cool, and respect her. Conversation Ignition An aggressive approach won’t work. But a confident approach will. Remember what I said about confidence. She has seen it all, and she knows the difference between a macho act and real emotional stability. She knows the difference between cockiness and self-assuredness. This means you should be very down to earth and casual in your approach. She’ll wonder why you aren’t fawning over her like every other guy. My favorite way to approach this type of women is to give her a genuine compliment, but in a way that says I’m used to beauty and it’s not a big deal. For example, try locking eyes and telling her in a non-chalant tone, “you look nice tonight.” Hold eye contact for one more beat, and look away. Nice? NICE? I’m just NICE? Who is this guy? Momentum Like I said, it’s easy to garner the interest of the Seductress for two reasons. First, she loves to chase, to seduce – it’s how she gets her power fix. Second, every other guy is groveling to get in her pants. So it’s simply a matter of not doing that. She will naturally want to conquer you. She interprets a man’s dominance by how comfortable he is making fun of himself (and her, but to lesser degree). Talk openly about your goals, failures, interests, and silly childhood memories, and your most recent embarrassing moment. And ask about hers as well. Keep the topic on passions, goals, and the mistakes that make us human. One other thing – and this takes some experience to cultivate – pull your attention away at key moments. Get the sense of when the average guy (the old you) would try to make a move or try to say something smooth and seductive, and instead, look away and relax your body. Connection The absolute best topic to talk about with the Seductress is sex. And this is where you show your true colors. Where the average guy will get overly excited about discussing sex with such a, well, sexy woman, you keep your cool. She is always, ahem, sizing you up. There are some things she’s looking for. She wants to make sure you’re packing a good tool for the job. You don’t have to be a pornstar, average, or even less-than average is fine, as long as you know how to use it. She interprets boasting and cockiness as overcompensation. But if you can laugh at yourself, it means you are secure…which implies that you are confident about what you can offer her sexually. She needs to know that you have stamina. So don’t blow your load, conversationally. Don’t convey that you are super interested in her. Don’t get giggly and overly excited about sex. Talk about fucking women as if you are talking about the weather – no, scratch that – your favorite sports team. Here’s why. She wants a man who is passionate. It’s no fun to give pleasure to someone who is unresponsive. And it’s no fun to think your lover is just going through the motions. She needs to know that once she turns you on, you will be an animal. Convey this by discussing sex, goals, and everything else, with enthusiasm. Notice the difference between being horny and passionate. If you are telling her about how much you love to watch a woman’s ass bounce when you fuck her from behind, talk about it with feeling and excitement. But give no indication that you plan on doing this to her. She will WANT to be on the receiving end of your passion, and will want to MAKE you want to give it to her (and she’s wonderfully frustrated as to why you don’t already). The last thing she is looking for is a giver. Men are selfish – she knows because she’s had a lot of them. She doesn’t need you to be an expert on cunnilingus, but she needs to know that you will ravish her body, because she is sexy, and she deserves it, dammit! Physicality Body Language One word: mysterious. When you make eye contact, hold it for one extra beat than would be “platonic” or polite. Then look away. It’s kind of like you are saying, with in that one brief moment, “You want me.” Keep a calm, slightly mischievous look on your face, as if you know something no one else does, and you are holding back a secret smile. You aren’t fooled by her swagger. You know she’s a sex kitten and just dying to sink her claws into you. Find that distance between up close and personal, and distant and uninterested. Stay there. She is highly charged, and very aware of your body and proximity. That mid-zone is in between the +/- so that’s where the electricity happens. Don’t get caught looking at her ass or tits. Boring, she thinks. She knows that good foreplay starts everywhere else. Let her catch you glancing at her neckline, her lips, her wavy and wild mane of black hair. Think about how much fun it’d be to grab a handful. She can see it in your eyes. Why isn’t he making a move? I know he wants me..doesn’t he? I will have to work for this one! Touch Keep your touch light and subtle. She is a very physical woman and would certainly let you manhandle her. But that would kill the tension. A man who understands sexual tension, and can handle the electricity in the air is sooo sexy to the Seductress. She’s dying to seduce you and find out what you are like in bed. Treat your touch like a tease. Every once in a while, graze her hand with yours. If you are standing close to her (e.g. in a crowded bar or club), let your crotch press against her hip or butt for a brief moment. If you speak into her eye, make sure she feels your breath against her neck. Any incidental brushing against her breasts or ass is extremely exciting, as long as you don’t linger, because then you’ve given yourself away. Subtle smell her, but don’t say anything. She can feel it. Back to top that's how u game a sudectress according to the pandora box lol I'm she's he's not any of what I list that ask her these 3 quetions. If u were a employer and is suppose to pick between picking 1 guys to train fr the job or using about 5 guys and picking the best for at the end of the month what would u do? 2: notice if she have tattoos and smoke or if she's really religious and judgmental of others 3: ask if she had the choice between leaving a job she have to get a better one in another place far from home and leave her family what would she do. Let me know what ever she picks lol |
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| Author: | cartman11 [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:39 pm ] |
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that's all from the Vin dicarlo book ??? and it's not what i asked, i am talking about russian women Quote: Y did u neg her? Was she acting like shes the shit? If not than negging isn't needed but do tease her when she does something dorky.
Another thing is how much do u know about this girl? I wanna guess she's a seductress because I'm spend lots of time with girls who are suductress. Is she someone who is really into getting n protecting her Career, is she someone who Is really independent and want to earn things? If yes she's what we call a realist 2. Does she have more than 1 tatoo, is she comfortable with talking bout sex with people she doesn't know like that, does she drink or smoke? If she's any of those things than shes most likely a justifier. 3. Is she surrounded by lots of guy friends thanks girl friends? If yes she's a tester If shes all of what I just listed than shes a suductress. This combination makes her a very confident, sexual, independent woman. She is a Diva – not in the dramatic sense (she is very level-headed) – but in the sense that she is strong, sexy, and has a presence that intimidates a lot of men. That’s good news for any guy reading this, as you can move forward confidently. Simply understanding her and knowing how to handle her is massively attractive, as she sees most men as weak and insecure. This is very frustrating to her, as she is very horny, but also very career-focused. She doesn’t have time to coddle egos. In sense, her attitude screens out the weak. If you can keep your cool, not get emotionally needy, and take care of her needs sexually, she will be a wild woman – one of the all-time greats in your little black book. BUT, if you get upset when she is too busy to see you, or you appear nervous when talking with her, she will move on. She is not the kind of woman you can win back. Once she spots weakness, she is gone, and will never see you the same way again. This doesn’t mean she is cold-hearted. She just needs a man. You don’t have to be super confident, or a stud in bed. You just have to keep your cool, and be giving in bed. If you are inexperienced, this woman would love to teach you how to please her. Her Desires Notice that most of this relationship is about sex. That’s because she doesn’t have time for much else. She probably isn’t looking for anything serious and thinks dating is silly. She wants a man who is her friend, her homeboy, respects her time, admires her intelligence and talent, and fucks her when she needs it. Not a bad job description… Ironically, this is the best way to end up in a serious relationship with her. And the relationship terms will be optimal if you are a guy who is on his own path and has career and life goals. She won’t demand a lot of your time. Mutual respect for each other’s goals is the foundation for a longterm relationship. She wants the ongoing experience of seducing you. She feels powerful when she can use her beauty, energy, and skill to turn you on. She likes to perpetually chase, but not in a schoolgirl way. Seducing a man is how she gets her power fix. Throughout the week, she will need an ego boost, and will need to feel sexy. She gets high knowing that a man is hungry for her, not because he is just horny, but because of something she did to excite him. WE have some some great techniques to get her in that state. How She Gets What She Wants The Seductress is surrounded by horny guys. She is sexy and confident, and men are handing their balls over left and right (pun intended). This is boring. She enjoys the attention to a degree – it’s better to be wanted than unwanted. But she is looking for a guy that is a challenge. The degree of chasing here is different from the Playette and the Social Butterfly. You don’t have to tease her. You don’t have to play any games. By staying calm and talking to her like a normal person (no lines, smooth talk, or buying drinks), you look like a challenge simply by contrast (to all the other clowns chasing her). Typically she will show interest in you at this point. She has no problem taking the lead when she wants something (you). The Seductress has no problem with sex. Her confidence in her ability to seduce and satisfy a man eliminates any fear of appearing easy or slutty. She’s not a slut, she’s a Seductress. A slut sleeps with men for attention. She sleeps with men because she enjoys it. A slut gets used. A Seductress uses men! As Charlie Sheen would say, that’s hot. The Seductress may at some point want a family, but she knows that in this day and age, a women can’t rely on men to support them. She believes in being independent and paying her own bills. She is likely not going to be satisfied staying home until after she’s had kids. However, as with all women, she has the need to nurture her man in order to strengthen the bond. She does this by helping in practical ways (Realist). She can help you make professional connections to get your business off the ground. She likely knows a lot of people and has a good amount of influence in her field. Let her help you, challenge her to seduce you, never lose your cool, and respect her. Conversation Ignition An aggressive approach won’t work. But a confident approach will. Remember what I said about confidence. She has seen it all, and she knows the difference between a macho act and real emotional stability. She knows the difference between cockiness and self-assuredness. This means you should be very down to earth and casual in your approach. She’ll wonder why you aren’t fawning over her like every other guy. My favorite way to approach this type of women is to give her a genuine compliment, but in a way that says I’m used to beauty and it’s not a big deal. For example, try locking eyes and telling her in a non-chalant tone, “you look nice tonight.” Hold eye contact for one more beat, and look away. Nice? NICE? I’m just NICE? Who is this guy? Momentum Like I said, it’s easy to garner the interest of the Seductress for two reasons. First, she loves to chase, to seduce – it’s how she gets her power fix. Second, every other guy is groveling to get in her pants. So it’s simply a matter of not doing that. She will naturally want to conquer you. She interprets a man’s dominance by how comfortable he is making fun of himself (and her, but to lesser degree). Talk openly about your goals, failures, interests, and silly childhood memories, and your most recent embarrassing moment. And ask about hers as well. Keep the topic on passions, goals, and the mistakes that make us human. One other thing – and this takes some experience to cultivate – pull your attention away at key moments. Get the sense of when the average guy (the old you) would try to make a move or try to say something smooth and seductive, and instead, look away and relax your body. Connection The absolute best topic to talk about with the Seductress is sex. And this is where you show your true colors. Where the average guy will get overly excited about discussing sex with such a, well, sexy woman, you keep your cool. She is always, ahem, sizing you up. There are some things she’s looking for. She wants to make sure you’re packing a good tool for the job. You don’t have to be a pornstar, average, or even less-than average is fine, as long as you know how to use it. She interprets boasting and cockiness as overcompensation. But if you can laugh at yourself, it means you are secure…which implies that you are confident about what you can offer her sexually. She needs to know that you have stamina. So don’t blow your load, conversationally. Don’t convey that you are super interested in her. Don’t get giggly and overly excited about sex. Talk about fucking women as if you are talking about the weather – no, scratch that – your favorite sports team. Here’s why. She wants a man who is passionate. It’s no fun to give pleasure to someone who is unresponsive. And it’s no fun to think your lover is just going through the motions. She needs to know that once she turns you on, you will be an animal. Convey this by discussing sex, goals, and everything else, with enthusiasm. Notice the difference between being horny and passionate. If you are telling her about how much you love to watch a woman’s ass bounce when you fuck her from behind, talk about it with feeling and excitement. But give no indication that you plan on doing this to her. She will WANT to be on the receiving end of your passion, and will want to MAKE you want to give it to her (and she’s wonderfully frustrated as to why you don’t already). The last thing she is looking for is a giver. Men are selfish – she knows because she’s had a lot of them. She doesn’t need you to be an expert on cunnilingus, but she needs to know that you will ravish her body, because she is sexy, and she deserves it, dammit! Physicality Body Language One word: mysterious. When you make eye contact, hold it for one extra beat than would be “platonic” or polite. Then look away. It’s kind of like you are saying, with in that one brief moment, “You want me.” Keep a calm, slightly mischievous look on your face, as if you know something no one else does, and you are holding back a secret smile. You aren’t fooled by her swagger. You know she’s a sex kitten and just dying to sink her claws into you. Find that distance between up close and personal, and distant and uninterested. Stay there. She is highly charged, and very aware of your body and proximity. That mid-zone is in between the +/- so that’s where the electricity happens. Don’t get caught looking at her ass or tits. Boring, she thinks. She knows that good foreplay starts everywhere else. Let her catch you glancing at her neckline, her lips, her wavy and wild mane of black hair. Think about how much fun it’d be to grab a handful. She can see it in your eyes. Why isn’t he making a move? I know he wants me..doesn’t he? I will have to work for this one! Touch Keep your touch light and subtle. She is a very physical woman and would certainly let you manhandle her. But that would kill the tension. A man who understands sexual tension, and can handle the electricity in the air is sooo sexy to the Seductress. She’s dying to seduce you and find out what you are like in bed. Treat your touch like a tease. Every once in a while, graze her hand with yours. If you are standing close to her (e.g. in a crowded bar or club), let your crotch press against her hip or butt for a brief moment. If you speak into her eye, make sure she feels your breath against her neck. Any incidental brushing against her breasts or ass is extremely exciting, as long as you don’t linger, because then you’ve given yourself away. Subtle smell her, but don’t say anything. She can feel it. Back to top that's how u game a sudectress according to the pandora box lol I'm she's he's not any of what I list that ask her these 3 quetions. If u were a employer and is suppose to pick between picking 1 guys to train fr the job or using about 5 guys and picking the best for at the end of the month what would u do? 2: notice if she have tattoos and smoke or if she's really religious and judgmental of others 3: ask if she had the choice between leaving a job she have to get a better one in another place far from home and leave her family what would she do. Let me know what ever she picks lol |
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| Author: | Loveu18 [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:28 pm ] |
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I know it is but it always help me so I was hoping it would help u 2 plus ur not giving me alot to work with here. U think that the girl ur gaming and otter Russians don't have humor but all girls have humor because negs isn't working I knows this Russian that always makes jokes n stuff, she's never serious about anything so Im not really sure if ur right on that. Maybe u it was the wrong time of the month lol another thing was she being nice n having a nice conversation when u started to neg? Btw teasing is different from negging so that might be y,maybe thats her shit test. Once meet this girl who called me ugly and that she would never date me when i said hello to her at a pool but I ended up kissing her the same day. Another inner game tip by Tyler is that: never focus at the outcome because everyone have different humor because we were all grown up differently so maybe the girls just don't get ur jokes. So try building lots of comfort with her try teasing ( not negging) when she when she makes silly funny mistake than back it up with something warm so she doesnt mistake u for arrogant. If teasing doesn't work at all ( which is very unsual) than keep up with comfort and qualifications. I saw this saw weeks ago who didn't understand my humor at all do it was kinda difficult because she wasn't laughing but I ignore her outcomes and keep it fun on my end and she started to open up with me so I than stated to understand her humor.. Turns out she was one of them redneck girls who find silly stupid things funny. Hope I help this time Ps: go on u tube and watch julien n Tyler fr RSD an they will explain ur problem to y and help u understand it better. |
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| Author: | MadTown Mayhem [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:42 am ] |
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Negs aren't to be used on attractive women all of the time. If the situation didn't call for it any woman will get upset at a neg, regardless of her culture. Some things are human nature. If you know enough to spot a Pandora's Box reference then you should know this. Or perhaps you should be in the field more and reading less. |
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| Author: | Victor_S [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:46 pm ] |
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You have to remember that in Russia there is a shortage of decent men. You often don't need to work as hard with Russian women as you do with western women and negging them may unnecessary lower their self esteem. Also the problem with negging foreign women is that sometimes they might get lost in translation. I've met quite a few russian women and many of them seem very cultured (interested in books, history, museums and all the other boring topics). There are a few that actually appreciate a sense of humour. I would suggest that you should be dominant and always take lead. |
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