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| Author: | wease [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Im So SUPER NOOB |
Ok here goes. Im 24 and I read the game and it has inspired me to get out of my afc ways. Im searching across the next and find this community. Cool , cool. Ok before all this I didnt go to bars , and had a score of 2. I think I have been out twice since and I got 2 number closes and 2 kiss closes. But even with this minor success , I can tell my game stinks. I find it easy as pie to cut into anything with any opener but Im having problems with what to do afterwards. I dont even know where to begin and Id be lucky to even keep fluffing going. Correct me if Im wrong but I believe im supposed to : OPEN ----> DEMONSTRATE H. V. ----> ISOLATE ----> CLOSE...??? This is my understanding. Doesnt seems right. And not only do i have to figure this out but I have to figure out how to transist. OH !!! I also dont get negs. I understand your supposed to cut these woman up in a friendly way and this is supposed to highten attraction but my experiences tell me its bad bad bad. I get unexpectedly angry responses. Like I read these posts about good negs but never is there an hb response and escape plan if shit hits fan. Peace. |
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| Author: | xvxv3ndetta [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:46 am ] |
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you have to use negs in relation to their rank. like HB9-10, you neg them a lot. 7-8 you do some and maybe none. That sort of deal. negs allow you to be playful, cocky, and be perceived as someone with social value. time and make a judgment as to what negs to use and you will get amazing results bah, im soo sleepy. love to help but Im K.O.ed. Good night. |
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| Author: | tiime [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:17 am ] |
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I can imagine the problem that you're having and the stage after opening can make or break a close! I would say (not talking from much experience, but none the less) you should get some routines under your belt, be it the 5 lies game, esp, magic tricks. Keep them interested until you can isolate them!! Hope this helps -- Tiime |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:12 pm ] |
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Allright, did you really read the game (no disrespect but I think it is quite good in explaining the points). Some important points first! A neg is NOT an insult!!! Calibrate, it is a comment on her that is neither good nor bad (well maybe slightly bad) to heighten her awareness. Most guys suck up to girls, you should be different, a guy who does that is not needy and thus has a higher value (girl logic). It goes something like this: Open (get the talk going) False time constraint! (Escape the crash and burn situation) Neg DHV (created attraction from her to you, important point, you cannot show interest in her before she has IOId you!). Bait hook reel release (show your interest in her) Isolate Build comfort (the cube, strawberry fields, ESP etc.) (Otherwise she´ll get buyers remorse.) Kino-escalate (Styles evolution phase shift) or go for the # Bounce or timebridge Day 2 Ezo |
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| Author: | Narcoleptic_Smile [ Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Too Serious |
I think you are missing the playfulness of the neg, and the confidence in which it is used. Make sure it fits, and doesn't come across as a question. If you think it is okay, it will be. If you are awkward about it, she will be too. This isn't a slam, it isn't rude. It is ONLY meant to show that you are not afraid to say what you want. It's like Mystery said(paraphrasing here): "you need to be able to show dis-interest, but no girl is going to notice you just sitting there, passively ignoring her. A neg is just an active way of showing dis-interest.". Think of "teasing" and you will be pretty close. Read books. Alot of books. There are alot of really good books on the subject out there. I like Juggler's method, but the book of pook is good too. The Ventrusian arts(by Mystery) is a definite good read as well. Carlos Xuma's book on the Alpha male, Style's archives and "rules of the game", The Art of Seduction(Robert Greene)... It's all what you want. The styles range anywhere from just being cocky(David D.) to near hypnotism(Ross Jefferies). Try watching a few live pick-ups and seeing how they use negs. This "game" is more an art of life. Find the style that fits you the best. Try a bit of everything till you find what you like. |
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| Author: | wease [ Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:55 am ] |
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Thank you all for your replies. I kinda took it to heart being questioned about actually reading "the game". I read it twice over and to me its like a bible ; as it has opened my eyes to a world never before seen. Anyways im over it , no hard feelings. I realize I need to do more research. Interestingly I have just purchased Introducing NLP and Robert Greenes Art of seduction. Browsing this site helps to. Another good point you guys have made , which I too came across , Go to youtube and watch some live pick-ups. I havent yet but thanks for your advice guys , greatly valued and appreciated. |
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| Author: | Rogue Hero [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:49 am ] |
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Be forewarned, Introducing NLP is NOT an easy reading book. It reads almost like a 2nd year university text book. Definitely opens your world up to frames and thought patterns though. |
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| Author: | PM88ENG [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:45 pm ] |
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Read "Mystery Method" It's a better How-To guide than "The Game." |
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| Author: | Top-ster [ Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:47 am ] |
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I so far have read "The Game" by Style, which goes through Style's initiation into the PUA world, and "The Mystery Method" which is more of an info book and it explains in-depth every part of the pickup. I read them in that order and I found it was interesting to read about Style being introduced to PUA then reading MM and learning everything for myself |
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