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Author:  PelonRico [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  LMR is a B****h!
I cant grasp this men, i have good successful openings and mid game, but on one night stand situations, she just isnt in the same ballpark as me.. idk maybe if im pushing it. IDK!

Any stratigies to study to help me on this will be appreciated...


-PR
Author:  Qbrain [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:49 pm ]
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from what I have read, LMR is easy to solve with a freeze out. If she says stop at for example while you take of her bra, you steal her frame by saying "ok, i understand". Totally kill the mood, stand up, go to your living room and watch TV.

Wait untill she joins you and start cuddling/making out again. Then when you reach the point again, say: "take of your bra" and let her comeover her LMR by herself.

LMR is comparable to Approach Anxienty for men. She should be the one to overcome it by doing it herself.

-Q
Author:  PelonRico [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:57 pm ]
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But what if it's at her spot?
Author:  Qbrain [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:06 pm ]
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LMR is basicly something that triggers when she thinks "but what if i have sex with him, will he go away or will he stay?" You need to show (don't tell, SHOW.) that sex is irrelevant and you will stay even if she has sex with you. If you kill the mood, and show her you will stay regardless if you have sex, she will have a feeling like "fck, im horny now, but i screwed up, i need to make it up, this is not what i wanted" and she will come to you.


The place is irrelevant.

-Q

It's like calibrating in kino. You take her hand, and when she pinches back, you trow her hand away...
Author:  Sparroww [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:07 pm ]
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LMR is basicly something that triggers when she thinks "but what if i have sex with him, will he go away or will he stay?" You need to show (don't tell, SHOW.) that sex is irrelevant and you will stay even if she has sex with you. If you kill the mood, and show her you will stay regardless if you have sex, she will have a feeling like "fck, im horny now, but i screwed up, i need to make it up, this is not what i wanted" and she will come to you.


The place is irrelevant.

-Q

It's like calibrating in kino. You take her hand, and when she pinches back, you trow her hand away...
+1 8)
Author:  Wolfwoodd [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:18 pm ]
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Ugh, walking out of the room seems like kind of a dick move (no pun intended). Also, it could be misinterpreted as sulking, which is NOT what you want. First, you should be outcome independent, so never get upset or sulky if she shows resistance. Instead, you should withhold your attention/affections (really the only way to correct bad behavior). Do this by immediately stopping any kino/escalation and by changing the subject to something entirely non-sexual. Then, wait a couple minutes and start escalating again. Rinse & Repeat.

Practical tips: Always put more emphasis on a girl's actions, than her words. If she says that you shouldn't sleep together, but she's half-naked and in your bed, then agree with her and continue escalating.

PYCO method: If she puts up heavy resistance, then just pull your cock out and start masturbating. The sight of cock makes most girls really horny so it usually short circuits their LMR.

Just my 2 cents.

-Wolf
Author:  sika [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:41 am ]
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I work thru the LMR like a list. the extra challenge is usually just a front or you wouldnt be in bed together. but dont take that the wrong way. no means no. and girls do change their mind.

anyway back on topic

it starts with agreeing with her resistance and persisting at that level for a while then continueing - usually this is enough for most but il continue anyway for the point of explanation,

then if its still resistance ill take one step back and rely on some thing that iv worked out she likes Ie neck kiss ear lobe ect, then push on once she is activly getting in to it. so one step back then one step forward

persistance is a great friend and if you can keep their logical mind working and make your escalations a stroke rather than a grap you will get alot further smoothly.

be gentle and understanding, it is her right to say no. but dont acknowledged her resistance as then it becomes real. just let it thru like water thru a net.

dont react to the resistance be cool, she isnt turning you down she is just saying not yet.

work withing what she is allowing you to do to pump the sexual vibe, kissing touching ect. get her dripping wet. this is the usual for 20+ yo virgins that are hot.

and for fucks sake be patient. dont spit the dummy and have a fit or get sulky. its all fun. all of it, even the resistance. noone finds someone sulking sexy - EVER so dont do it.

expect LMR with every girl. dont be thrown by it. quality girls alllways give alittle taste of LMR.

Remember to allways lead, treat it like a fire and keep upping the temp.
and remember everything you do is Normal and fun.

Never personally tryed a full blown Freeze out. I will turn over and pretend to sleep when she is hot and heavy after all else has failed but this is a last dig effort, then I build up again after and if that dusnt work I kick her out

the PYCO method sounds like a laugh, but I can see it failing badly
I will try it to see if I am wrong, but most girls iv spoken to dont get really horny at the sight of a penis. and would see that as vile behaviour. my opinion anyway. mabe its just the girls I target.

I enjoy LMR as it is like a big game for me. but above all No means No.
It also means get out of my bed haha.
Author:  Jambi [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:36 am ]
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No doesn't necessarily mean no. I was with a girl who kept saying "no stop" but it was just her playing out her fantasy. To make it clear I'm not saying rape a girl lol. It's all about voice tonality and body language. and generally if she is not pushing you off her or slapping you across the face your still good.

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dont react to the resistance be cool, she isnt turning you down she is just saying not yet.
Basically she means turn me on a little bit more.
For example
If she says, "I don't think we should do this" agree with her by looking into her eyes and saying "I know we really should stop, and I really shouldn't do this"- at which point you bite/suck her neck or breasts. This will get her turned on even more since you are being a man dominating her. BUT If she says it again with a different voice tone that doesn't suggest she is turned on that's when you stop and no actually means no.

Here's what I believe are the highlights of the advice you have had so far
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it starts with agreeing with her resistance and persisting at that level for a while then continueing - usually this is enough for most but il continue anyway for the point of explanation,
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and for fucks sake be patient. dont spit the dummy and have a fit or get sulky. its all fun. all of it, even the resistance. noone finds someone sulking sexy - EVER so dont do it.
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Always put more emphasis on a girl's actions, than her words. If she says that you shouldn't sleep together, but she's half-naked and in your bed, then agree with her and continue escalating
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