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Author:  Min0 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  my sticking point is flirting
after reading,listening,watching pickup material and continuous interactions with the different women its finally clear for me that what is holding me back the most is lack of flirting skills...
I don't have AA, am pretty damn good with kino(or so I became to believe) and can get girls attracted and interested just by doing it.
Past that stage I can build report or by teasing, but what I really need is improve my flirting.

I would appreciate tips & tricks, which PUA program, book or anything you could offer?
I do know that I will need to go out and practice this skills, but I also know that I won't getting down just by doing it in improvisation way - I need a base line, like bullet points in my head what it is and what it's not.

Appreciate your help ;)
Author:  Au Naturel [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:26 pm ]
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sounds like you'll be pretty much fine without flirting anyways, but I'd suggest saying outrageous things and then making eye contact, by tilting your head down and looking up at her from under your eyebrows and slightly smirking. ie

You: "You're cute, but...no forget it."
Girl: haha what?
(Then look away, smirk, look back at her in the eye)
You: You look a bit like a kitten, I almost feel like it's beastiality.
(Then look down and up from under your eyebrows)

play around with anything like that, smirk, make fun of her, make her laugh, punch her lightly in the arm, pre-kino contact I guess.
Author:  Min0 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:49 pm ]
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sounds like you'll be pretty much fine without flirting anyways
it would be the case if verbal game wouldn't be such an important part. let's say in party environment I will get us making out without saying a lot or without saying anything at all, BUT once that stops you need to fallow up... You can't fallow be interviewing her like at job interview...

example:
I will grab a girl in party for dance, will give her a spin, will get her interested and attracted, the song is over and we go someplace to sit down.
At this point I need to flirt and switch the escalation from physical to more verbal otherwise the vibe will be gone. Had happened SO many times its painful to stick at the same point...

There will be no congruence with my verbal and physical game...

Thanks for example and tips, had in mind that this will be part of the answer....

what about being cheesy in an exaggerated way?

would love to get some names, who I could check out as an example.. :roll:
Author:  Au Naturel [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:02 pm ]
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yeh the cheesy thing works, but it's not as effective. Joke about how you ended up with the ugly one and you wanted her friend. Not negging, but things that are so obviously insulting it won't be taken seriously at all.
Author:  Min0 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:48 pm ]
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update on my sticking point:
after observing my interactions and getting feedback from some friends I figure that my real problem is that my interaction is not leading anywhere. even if I will be flirtatious it won't be leading to the next step. needs advice on that....
Author:  P-Style [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:00 am ]
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example:
I will grab a girl in party for dance, will give her a spin, will get her interested and attracted, the song is over and we go someplace to sit down.
At this point I need to flirt and switch the escalation from physical to more verbal otherwise the vibe will be gone. Had happened SO many times its painful to stick at the same point
WTF?
Dude, when you've reached physical stage all you need to do is stfu and build the psysical till you can kiss her. There's no need for chatting. Really none.
Almost every girl will start talking by themselves when the tension starts going up. All you need to do is continue building the psychical. Grab her by the middle, around the neck, etc. And simply kiss her.

Getting to the psychical is the hard part. Afterwards the game has been played. It's like you reverse things.
Author:  Min0 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:38 pm ]
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example:
I will grab a girl in party for dance, will give her a spin, will get her interested and attracted, the song is over and we go someplace to sit down.
At this point I need to flirt and switch the escalation from physical to more verbal otherwise the vibe will be gone. Had happened SO many times its painful to stick at the same point
WTF?
Dude, when you've reached physical stage all you need to do is stfu and build the psysical till you can kiss her. There's no need for chatting. Really none.
Almost every girl will start talking by themselves when the tension starts going up. All you need to do is continue building the psychical. Grab her by the middle, around the neck, etc. And simply kiss her.

Getting to the psychical is the hard part. Afterwards the game has been played. It's like you reverse things.
yeah... kind of reverse...
The reason it is a problem that very often I get physical where because of logistic or some other reason it can't progress.
ie:
there a people she knows around and she's thinking too much about her face;
she don't wanna be making out in the environment where she wants to come regularly;

I was thinking that the best solution in these cases would be to ask them out to meet up in different places where all those problems disappears.
In this case, does that mean I should just forget all the sexual escalation I did before and start from 0?

In the example where we can't hook up because of logistics, after 'dance' I am in a good place and not progressing feels wrong...
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