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Author:  -Que- [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Social Proof/ Confidence Routine
Hey guys,

I recently developed this great new routine, designed to rapidly build social proof, confidence, and communicative competence. Here's what you do,

Make up a survery, consisting of 10 questions. These questions can be fun, stimulating, provocative etc...it's up to to decide what kind of feelings you want to evoke from your crowd. - Make about 150 copies.

Dress up quite formally. This gives you an excuse to wear a suit;). Shower, spray on some cologne, basically, make yourself feel fantastic before you go out.

Once you arrive at your destination (Universities, Shopping Malls, and Professional Sporting Events work great) start approaching strangers asking if they have 30 seconds to fill out a survery that is required for your "business class," in college.

Most people will comply. Now you have multiple angles at which you can spark a conversation from..the survey itself, what they're shopping for, what they think of the game, the weather, anything..you're in charge.

After doing this 150 times, a number of things will have happened:

First, you will be acquainted with atleast 150 people in that venue (perhaps more because people usually walk in 2's or 3's)

Second, there is a very high chance that you have received some numbers. (Check your surverys) ;) ...a well groomed, dressed up, confident student is alluring to anybody.

Third, your confidence will have multiplied.

Fourth, you got out of the house!

There are many positive dimensions to this. I did this last week at my university, and received 7 numbers, arranged 3 second encounters, and was invited to 1 party. Try it out, and let me know how it goes!
Author:  asherb [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:06 pm ]
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Im not sure about that. That's wayyy too much effort dude.

Why not just enter the club and wave to nobody at the back of the club?

Works everytime
Author:  Qlass [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:23 am ]
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Personally I think this is a brilliant idea, not from a "routine" perspective, but as a way to help get newbies out of their shell. Also to help people quickly get back into the game if having been out of it for a while. It FORCES you to talk to LOTS of people in one day (150 might be overkill but the idea is still good), even if it's as simple as "Hi do you have 30 seconds to take a survey?". After many approaches in ONE day your confidence will have sky-rocketed. You will naturally begin pushing your boundaries after the first several approaches.

It also helps you to manage your emotions after a rejection, i.e., when people say "Sorry no time" or "No thanks."

Well done. I may give this a shot.

Q.
Author:  vizzy [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:27 am ]
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Firstly, way too much effort.
To go through all that to get numbers is just needy.

Did you really get numbers? or are you bullshitting? and if you did, do they know your intentions..or did you just say some crap like "give me your number, it's for a raffle because you filled out the form...if you win I'll call you and we'll arrange your prize..."

Seriously dude, someone with very little common sense and experience is going to read this and think 'oh wow I should really try this out'.
Author:  Qlass [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:43 am ]
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Seriously dude, someone with very little common sense and experience is going to read this and think 'oh wow I should really try this out'.
I think it is a great shame that you bring a closed-mind and a negative attitude to the table here. This forum is set up to help each other out, not tear them down. I don't know who you are or what your experience level is, so I'm not going to bother to argue with you.

I think the key here is to keep an open mind about trying something new. Whether it's too much effort or too little is besides the point. Whether this guy got genuine numbers or said it was for a raffle is irrelevant. He merely posted this idea, which worked for him, for the benefit of others. I'm sure he could care less about trying to impress a bunch of strangers on a forum.

But if you think about the benefits to a newbie, someone who hasn't had much experience and who is terrified of going out on a limb, this is a great idea. Hell, I've been in this for a year-and-a-half and I think I too can gain something from it.

It's really less about seeing immediate results or getting numbers right away, and more about pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone and trying something different.

For the guys who spend Friday nights reading PU theory - this is something that would help them far more than they could ever imagine.

Q.
Author:  TheLaw [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:13 am ]
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I agree with Qlass (Cloud!)

Most people who first began PUA were shy, n many had trouble of becoming more confidant. This mission isnt about getting a number close or a date, just about gettin used to speakin to people n learn when they turn you down or whatever it really isnt a big deal.

well done Que
Author:  vizzy [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:39 pm ]
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Seriously dude, someone with very little common sense and experience is going to read this and think 'oh wow I should really try this out'.
I think it is a great shame that you bring a closed-mind and a negative attitude to the table here. This forum is set up to help each other out, not tear them down. I don't know who you are or what your experience level is, so I'm not going to bother to argue with you.

I think the key here is to keep an open mind about trying something new. Whether it's too much effort or too little is besides the point. Whether this guy got genuine numbers or said it was for a raffle is irrelevant. He merely posted this idea, which worked for him, for the benefit of others. I'm sure he could care less about trying to impress a bunch of strangers on a forum.

But if you think about the benefits to a newbie, someone who hasn't had much experience and who is terrified of going out on a limb, this is a great idea. Hell, I've been in this for a year-and-a-half and I think I too can gain something from it.

It's really less about seeing immediate results or getting numbers right away, and more about pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone and trying something different.

For the guys who spend Friday nights reading PU theory - this is something that would help them far more than they could ever imagine.

Q.
And how do you expect them to move on?
They are hiding behind a shell that is this routine.
I had Huge AA and Social Anxiety. But I still did something about it, I went out to the shops and started small, basically asking for direction, for the time. Then I moved on to asking girls where a good shop for clothes was. I have since started the stylelife challenge which I see as pretty useful.

I would not have gotten the same results had I gone out pretending to be something I'm not. Or gone out hiding behind some random idea that I'm looking for information from people.
How do he expect to ever transition? Or is he going to go into the clubs and ask people to fill out a survey there aswell?

I'm not going to argue with you. A new person can read this topic and decide for themselves whether they want to use this. Or actually step into the real world.
Author:  -Que- [ Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:21 am ]
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I see this as being very controversial. There are infact easier ways to pick up women ( but virtually only if you're experienced ). I started taking PU seriously about 6 months ago, and like most aspiring PUA's I have pulled off a wide assortment of stunts. Some were rejected while other's led to me capitalizing on HB's. I'm not encouraging you to be somebody new through this idea. You're dressing up in a suit, you're confident, you're getting approaches and great encounters, while doing a trivial survey. I'm not sure where the superficiality lies. If it's too much effort, keep waving at randoms in the bar. I know how difficult it is to begin in this field though and I strongly encourage especially newbies to give this a shot. It is ideal for people who struggle with AA and basically confidence. Remember, confidence is bread through competence. Get the field play! Let me know how it goes. All the best guys.
Author:  NewApprentice [ Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:36 am ]
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Im with Qlass on this. Ofc, if you dont like it, just dont do it.

But I can see this as a good exercise for people who have extreme AA. It might be even easier than the exercise of just saying "hi" to girls at the mall, since this gives you a purpose for being there and therefore might be less awkward for some.
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