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Author:  jwoo22 [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  AMOG problems. EPIC backstab. Please advise. (long)

Sorry this is long but i cant sleep because i cant stop thinking about beating the fuck out of this kid whos supposed to be my boy, and i really need some help from the community. Please! I really need advice from the community.

So I got into PUA a few years ago and skyrocketed my success with women. still my lack of aggressiveness and general friendly disposition gives me problems. i cant sleep because of the last one and im really really enraged.

so i meet these girls through my "boy" bob, who ive had problems with in the past. he told me once that "making other people look stupid makes me look good" and hes a natural because of his extremely inflated ego and sheer lack of consciousness and a very strong wit and LOUD HAHAHAHAHAHA personality. ive wrestled him out of anger a few times and im bigger but hes strong, but i always win even tho hell try to choke me and laugh til i fucking have to strangle his ass to stop him (which he laughs at too). i slapped the shit out of him one time and he freaked out and was like if u do that again we have a big problem, and me to him alone i was lke do something ill kill you. and he just talked loudly like he does constantly.

regardless, he told everyone that he won the wrestling matches and argued with me that he did, and literally believes it himself hes so delusional and self-assured. (i pinned him multiple times and had to choke him to get him to stop tryign to wrestle)

So friday night i pick up these 3 girls, one of whom named Amanda i met thru bob and have been talking to online/texting/phoning and shes interested in being good friends. I meet her friend caroline whos this cute hippyish chick who loves weed and me and her hit it off instantly the first night we met, (her friends came over and dragged her away and she looked real sad when she was like im so sorry i have to go) and im just cool with it like ok no prob see ya. so when i pick up amanda from this party to go downtown, carolines there and gets in the front seat of my car. we go downtown, they split for a while and we meet back up with them. me and caroline are hitting it off amazingly, my game is on shes interested, its fun and were having a great time. bob comes in out of nowhere and is basically IM HERE PAY ATTENTION TO ME EVERYONE. he gets all over her but me, trying to be cool and not jealous over a girl i barely know, let it slide and just focus on me and hers rapport.

so after a few hours downtown theyre all in my car and we go back to my house to blaze. me and caroline havent stopped talking and laughing and im constnatly teasing her and she loves it, im getting touchy slowly but surely, touching her legs and stuff and shes cool.

so were at my crib on the couch with her 2 friends and the singer in my band were blazing chilling have a great time. my friend and his girl roll over cuz we invited them to come smoke. 10 minutes later bob bursts in the door (he came with them but likes to completely have everything focused on him) so he makes this dramatic entrance about how he got into this fight and got punched and my other friend wasnt there to back him up. so he starts shittalking in my ear about my friend Ryan for not drivin him back to get some pussy, and for not backing him up in a fight (ryan wasnt even in the same bar)

then he has the fucking nerve to lie upside down inbetween my girl and the girl amanda who is retarded but fun, and easy to use to control the room. he puts his arm around both girls including the girl im clearly going to hook up with tonight (me and caroline had been fighting off the other girls who were being jealous and grabbing her away and me for my attention, and weve just been making fun of everyone and she was touching my leg and hands and shit and its just a tough situation for me with all these aggressive jealous girls, but still im relaxed and cool)

i pull his arm off her and am like move, and he goes no im gonna sit right here with a BIG SMILE! and im like haha ok whatever. and tries to get her to scratch his head and then starts nuzzling her tits with the back of his head. shes uncomfortable and looks at me. but isnt real uncomfortable. so then this kid keeps whining about everything and trying to get their pity attention, and then i say a few smart ass things to him and hes like ILL KILL YOU. and then ignores me (in my state of just being myself, having a good time and with my *guard down* im just like uh no you wont, not real loud or anything) so i signal to him that shes with me a few times, but he just smiles. amanda is on his one side whipsierng to him so that gets caroline in and then before you know it theyre scratching his head, talking about their mutual friend who he hooked up with a tiny bit, then they all fall asleep on the couch while he whispers all bedroom talk-like to them.

when caroline gets up to leave she tries to talk to me but her ugly annoying roommate GRABS my arm and DEMANDS my attention (again i let this blindsight me) so caroline hugs me without making eye contact and says bye, im just like shocked and say bye...

basically, this kid who is supposed to be my boy has a forked tongue, and will smile and be all nice to me but then AMBUSH me out of nowhere and make me look bad with some shit like this.

now, im a little pissed about the girl, but weve been texting a little and it seems cool and i know our rapport will probably be real good next time i see her. however, chances are the next time i see her will be at his apartment or downtown where hes always at unless i make a move to take her out, maybe karoaoke on tuesday at this sweet pool hall? they like bob hes a fun guy, but at this point i cant stop thinking about smashing his face.

what do i do? our group of friends has told him hes a complete cockblock and hes always like oh i have no idea that im doing it, which is what he said the next morning when ryan was like u were being a fag and cockblocked john for no reason.

I feel that my best bet is keeping the social scene cool with these girls to hook up with caroline. im not pressed at all to hook up with her but now its a matter of pride to overcome this like 4am ambush and get this girl. (IN MY FUCKING HOUSE)

i am probably going to say something like listen man, im not pissed (he tries to control me with my anger at him but nothing like this has happened in like a good year or so) "im not pissed but if you ever disrespect me like that again, or yell ill kill you to me, or try to make me look bad im going to slap the shit out of you." or that ill fight him. im not a fighter, im a pretyt big dude, and ive been in barfights and ive broken a bottle on someones head but i dont like to fight. i have been so angry about this kid coming in my fucking HOUSE, cockblocking the girl that i BROUGHT WITH ME, making kissy faces at me when im being nice to him (cuz hes my boy right? why be aggressive and an asshole? apparently i have to be or people will just try to walk all over me CONSTANTLY) talking shit about our friend in front of everyone, kissing me on the cheek, and just his fucking general ego that i think im probably going to have to fight him. At this point if it happens again im not gonna care whos gonna look bad (i always say i want my boys to be my boys and to make each other look good, but this mentality gets me AMOGed at random times by cocky friends. if i fight him i have to teach him a lesson to respect me. he basically disarms me with his smile and being nice to me, taking advantage of my assumed friendship, and then shocks me with random shit that i dont know how to deal with. i didnt want to be aggressive and territorial over this girl that i barely know, i didnt want to be an ass hole because they understand him as my boy. but he has no shame in making me look bad and in fact relishes in it i guess because he got punched in the head and did nothing but cry that our friend wasnt there to save him.

most of the anger is at myself for letting it happen, and at him for being a piece of shit.

any advice? If anyone actually read all this, thanks a lot its eating me up and i have emotional problems to begin with, and im really having violent thoughts about this kid. I want to just constantly make him look bad in front of everyone. Should I? just be a complete ass hole? I have trouble finding the balance between making people look bad while making myself look good, or just being an aggressive ass hole (a problem i had years ago but dont anymore cuz i dont act lke that)

WHAT SHOULD I DO TO TEACH THIS SNAKE TO RESPECT ME, and how can i remember to constantly be on my toes around guys, because i have game but people always try to amog me out of nowhere and it ALWAYS takes me by surprise when someone with skill does it. FUCK

Author:  Call Me Dre [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:24 am ]
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Bro i fucking love this,

My friend is the same fucking way, WOW it pissed me off just remembering it

Things that i did,

every time he cock blocked me i would treat him like an AMOG

*he sits between the two girls, and wont get up*

my remark

"Bobbiee I can already tell these two are your targets for tonight(point at the two girls), thats cool with me, but hey i kind of like this one(then you pull her out of the situation and walk somewhere else) lets go do, what ever you can do in the situation (get a drink, get some fresh air, what ever)" you two where hitting it off, she knows you like her, and vise versa, so why not say something C&F about it and act like you don't give a fuck about his actions, especially if you know what hes up to, this shows you the fucking boss, and what can he possibly do "NO I WANT THEM BOTH!!!" lol yea right


Every time he cock blocks you just shut him down, obviously he doesn't listen, so give him a picture to think about

After you do this 2-3 times hes going to realize that "well i might as well not even try this guy will make me look like an ass"

Hope to hear from what happens, shut that fucker down

PS. we are still friends but now he knows whats up, I get what I want, and he can take what ever is left

Author:  Call Me Dre [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:29 am ]
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Oh and if someone who is your friend cock blocks you, flag him in your mind as an AMOG, and don't unflag him until you have noticed otherwise.

Best of luck

Author:  jwoo22 [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:45 am ]
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hey man thanks for the quick response. i definitely had him flagged as an amog and in my earlier PUA days it got me real aggressive and angry at thee end of hte night so i would fight him. ive been reading online heres what im gonna do, its tough because hes smart as shit and loud and quick and ruthless but ugly as fuck. anyhow.

ill just be like why are you trying so hard to get with these girls, why are you trying so hard to impress them? im really just gonna try to stay cool and make him look bad as often as i can. i know hes gonna come out of left field with some shit to make me look bad cuz he knows a lot about me and im a crazy fucker.

maybe be like "dude youre so cool" cuz hes ALWAYS talking about himself and hes ALWAYS talking and ALWAYS talking loud. its just overwhelming. i honestly cant sleep just waiting for the next chance i get to fuck with him because im going to do it, im going to make him look bad, and if he says shit to me im going to fucking slap him.

**** i should have remember to flag him as an AMOG. Ill keep him around cuz he knows a lot of girls, but he has been marked. now ill know better than to be nice to him and feed his game/ego when im working mine. im just naturally nice and like making my friends look good. not anymore. hes definitely been downgraded from "homeboy" to "piece of shit ill drink with"

Any other tips??

Author:  shazzbott [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:16 am ]
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It sounds like your friend is a complete douchebag. With that being said... I would literally just go up to him and tell him he needs to back off when you are trying to hook up with this girl or any girl.

This is similar to a situation I just had with one of my roomates, he knew I liked this girl but he kept going after her and saying "what its not like shes your girlfriend". I just confronted him and told him to back off from this one and since he is my friend he realized he should and did.

Anyways back yo your situation, most of the reply above me seemed to be based on if it was a person you did not know but since this guy is your " cockblocking friend" just call him out or just stop hanging out with him when you have girls around. Hope that helped.

Author:  rocky9118 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:50 am ]
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dre dude . love your avatar . but try to keep this forum pg13 man. i opened up the forum at college , and the librarian passed by, she was like what are you doing. long story short. almost got in trouble cause' of it.

i would really appreciate it. thanks

Author:  jwoo22 [ Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:48 am ]
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word thanks for the tips guys. im just done with him altogether. hes on my badside. hes let me down and disrespected me for the last time.

Author:  Hypnotix [ Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:34 am ]
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Dude....Its plain and simple....blow the dude off....

Yea he may know a lot of chicks or whatever but whats the point if you know the dude is gonna be breathing right down your neck each and every time you try to hook up w/ a girl....

Just avoid him all together....and it'll hit him harder than any punch will....Actually fighting, as you already hinted at, will just feed his AMOG-ness.

IMO, cock-blocking another dude is the ultimate bro-code sin....Im very loyal to my friends in that regard and when they pull anything cock block-ish....I pull them to the side and call them out instantly...And I expect the same from them if I would do do something similar....

Just dont even play the game bro....And thats all it is to him....AMUSEMENT

Author:  Magic I [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:07 am ]
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you either have 3 choices
1) AMOG the fucker.. no exceptions... if he trys to get physical say "get off me u faggit" then look to the girls and say "he's always trying to feel me up, i think hes into me"--- or even punish/reward him ( remember learn to sarge guys aswell as girls)

2) if u see there is still any gd in him... turn him into a PUA, indroduce him to some books/forums on everthing Pick-up. then eventuallly he will understand why u were so pissed off because of what he was doing. i have a feeling that bob doesnt understand how attraction is triggerd in girls.. by using this option.. he will :)


--or--

3) fuck the bitches.... theres always HBs about.. dont dwell over one girl for too long.. if things because problematic, just move on. Afterall BROS BEFORE HOES???? ;P




P>>>S>> i personally dont think, u should chill with this guy .. hes hasnt got much status if he's fucking about with one of his bros... u need respect. U need a WING ASAP!!!!

a true wing would never play that shit.. i instead a true wing would only DHV u and motivate out in field.., :)

Author:  Roobosh [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:03 pm ]
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when hes pissing you off find a reason to 'play' slap him, but do it with force. Noit too hard but laugh about it and treat it as a joke but he'll get tyhe picture, if he's as smart as you say he wont react cause he'll blow himself out of the water.

Author:  Little Panda [ Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:53 pm ]
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Quote:
dre dude . love your avatar . but try to keep this forum pg13 man. i opened up the forum at college , and the librarian passed by, she was like what are you doing. long story short. almost got in trouble cause' of it.

i would really appreciate it. thanks
I agree. My mom almost saw this, just a second ago :/

Still, it's a nice avatar though ^^

Author:  Stew C [ Sat May 30, 2009 4:45 am ]
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Man I had a similar problem with my ex-best friend. He brought over these two chicks, the girl he was trying to get with and her friend Amanda who an HB9. Me and Amanda hit it off really well and after a week of talking to her, I pretty much knew I had it in the bag.

After this party a week after meeting her, I was driving her home (my ex-best friend was in the car too) and she said to me, "You should pick me up again at around 1AM and we should go back to your house (my parents were gone for the weekend)" So I'm thinkin to myself "YES!!! I'm about to get some..." thats when my ex-best friend says to me "hey let me sleep at your house tonight" and I told him he should go home but he said he couldnt. Reluctantly I brought him back to my house (Big fucking mistake).

Before I left to get her, I was glad to see my friend had passed out in like 10 seconds flat while watching a movie. So I pick her up, bring her back to my spot, and when we get in the house, my dumbass friend is awake again saying "Dude why didnt you wake me up to go with you?" I was getting pretty agitated at this point but keeping my cool.

Here's the kicker, while cuddling with her on my couch, getting major kino, she says to me "We should go in your hot tub..." I tell her thats a great idea, then she says "...but I dont have a swimsuit so i guess I'll just have to go in naked" (not kidding you guys, I was really happy with how it was going, especially since this was back in junior year of high school when I was still a virgin)

So we go in my hot tub, shes completely naked except for a bra, and as we're getting really touchy feely my bastard friend comes running out in his boxers and jumps in, the first thing that runs through my mind is "WHAT THE FUCK!!!?? YOU TRAITOR!!" I couldn't fucking believe it, this was like breaking all ten of the non-cockblocking commandments at once.

I ended up never getting to do much else with her and still get pissed about it when I think of it. I do have myself to blame in part because back then I was not assertive enough to make my friend leave or not spend the night at my house in the first place. He was my closest friend back then and I didnt want to hurt his feelings but DAMN! I can't believe some guys are missing that intuition of when its a good time to give their friends some alone time with a girl. But I definitely think its best to pull the cockblocker aside (especially if they're your good friend) and let them know the score; that way its out in the open and what they need to do is now obvious to them (Even though it should have been obvious in the first place).

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