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Author:  joejoejoe [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  my own cheat sheet

heres my personal cheat sheet. i added some of my own things and things ive learned online. i probably classify things a little different then some of you guys. its what works for me. i think body language is most of the game anyways. tell me what you guys think of it.

openers:

things to say when opining:

It’s your pleasure to meet me

-(ask for directions or information)
ex.
do you know where (insert) is
how far away are we from (insert)
do you know what that is

-(state situational opinion to her inderectly)
ex.
it seems so much bigger in person
i wonder how tall that is
i like it better in blue
i like the landscaping

-(ask situational opinion to her directly)
ex.
do you think it seems bigger in person?
how tall do you think that is?
do you think it looks good with that color?

-(random opinion)
(question followed by reason for asking)
(question) - (about drama, relationships, fasion, boy vs girl)
(reason) - i just read/i was just talking about it/(tell story)/i was just wondering

-(direct)
hey, who are you? what are you up to/thought you looked cool wanted to see what your like.

-(simply start in qualification)

-(make cold read)

shit test responses:

Looks like someone put on their cranky pants this morning

Lighten up you loser

Glad you like it. So what else do you like about me?

Give me a kiss on the cheek and I’ll consider letting you forgive me

Awwww you’re so cute when you’re angry

your quickly emberrising yourself more and more with every word you say

wow,you totaly understand me! come on, lets get married. we mine as well just go on our honeymoon right now.

story telling/information giving/random games/comfort/banter:

my freinds new girlfreind:
my freind just got a new girlfreind... and i got to be part of getting him the girl. he was visiting a freind and he calls me up and hes like "omg joe there is like the most gorgeuos girl, i think she lives next door here, what should i say to her" and i told him to just say anything you just have to have a reason for talking to her, you know? i told him just try and be creative. find a way to pique her interest. he answers "say no more... i know exactly what im going to do!" and hangs up the phone. he calls me later "hey joe im hangin out with her tommoro" i told him thats awsome. so he goes on! "yeah i was thinking about how you told me to be creative..." and geuss what he said? its to stupid youll never geuss. you realy want to know? maybe i shouldnt tell... my freinds realy a great guy and i dont want to throw him under the bus... ok ill tell you... he told me he stole her cat! yeah! stole her cat, drove a mile down the road, called the girls number which was on the collar, and was the hero cat rescuer!

three stooges:
i was out with some freinds one night and the funniest thing happened. there were these three guys standing around, looking like they thought they were just hot shit, know what i mean? and one of the guys was lifting his foot up to scratch it. he lost his balance and fell over onto the guy next to him. he then fell over onto the guy next to him... and all three of them went down like dominoes. reminds me of the three stooges.

prank accident:
have you ever gotten sucked into false rumors and gossip? i was once talking with a freind on the phone and she told me she heard rumors of one of my other friends getting into a car accident! so naturaly i called to see if everything was alright... but he didnt answer... a while later his girlfriend called me back on his phone! she goes "you called earlier about andrew getting into a car crash"... "uh yeah?"... then she goes onto tell me hes in the hospital, unconscious, broke both his arms and legs... bullshit, it was all crap! and i totaly fell for it! never found out if anyone was actualy an accident or not!

real live unicorn:
did you know there was a real live unicorn found in italy. no, not realy. it was a deer with one horn in the middle... but it could fly!

pet kangeroo:
ive been thinking lately about getting a pet kangeroo... well yea, you know there have actualy been random kangeroo sightings throughout america... so i geuss this would be a livable habitat for a kangeroo... then i could teach it to fight and make it my bodygaurd and have him entertain geusts at house partys.

ring and index finger:
let me see your hand. my freind told me most of the time guys have longer ring fingers and that girls have longer index fingers. it has something to do with testosterone... but there are still some guys with longer index fingers and girls with longer ring fingers.

who listens better:
who do you think listens better girls or guys? i once read about a study and they hooked a bunch of guys up to those brain scanner thingy mabobbers... when listening to another males voice it processed in the part of the brain that registers logic... but when listening to another females voice it registered in the part of the brain that processes more complex noises like music.

feet angles:
theres an 80% chance you can tell how comfterable a person is by looking at there feet. the more straight forward they point their feet the more relaxed, comfterable, and confident they are. the more at an angle they are the more uncomfterable they are.

sucking brain:
i have to figure you out... (place your hand on her head and make sucking noise) ...im sucking out your brain... im taking it all in... hmm interesting

more than meets the eye:
I’m willing to bet that there is so much more about you that others never get to see.
I get that same feeling about myself sometimes. like they say in transformers "more than meets the eye"

which hand:
ill turn away and you raise one hand for 30 seconds. then show me both your hands and ill tell you which one you raised...
...the hand you put up has less blood in it so its pailer

superhero/wizard name:
you know what your superhero/wizard/(anything else) name is? take your first pets name followed by your street name. thats what your (whatever) name is.

bullshit palmread:
i can read your palm. see this line right here... it means your retarded.

real palmread:
give me your hand so i can read your palm. give me your left, the left hand usualy has clearer lines then the right.

pulse rate:
i dont know if i can trust you. i can detect when your lieing. let me see your hand so i can find your pulse. where is it? you dont have a pulse. holy moly, your a zombie! o nevermind there it is. ok, do you like porno? o my! your pulse rate is getting faster! your a porno attict!

thumb wrestle:
on, two, three, four i declare a thumb war (cheat to win) wow you suck! nah, actualy i forgot to mention that i was a proffesional thumb wrestler.

silence:
lets see who can be quiet the longest...

red hammer:
think of a color and a tool, dont tell me what it is. ok? red hammer... i read once that the majority of people pick red hammer.

five lies game:
im gonna ask you five qeustions and you have to answer them all a lie. ok?
how many legs do dogs have?
are you human?
what color is your shirt?
ok... hang on... let me think... crap i forgot, how many qeustions was that?
have you played this game before?

the cube:
imagine an empty feild in front of you.
-first picture a cube.
how big is it?
what is it made out of?
-then picture a horse.
where is it in relation to the cube, is it standing on it, is it leaning on it, is it far away from the cube?
how healthy is it?
is it tame or wild?
-Next picture a patch of flowers.
Where are they in relevance to the cube?
How many?
What do they look like?
-now picture a ladder is leaning against the cube.
how tall is it?
is it very supportive or does it look like it could easily break?
-now picture a storm.
how strong is the storm?

the cube = her
horse = men in her life
flowers = freinds
ladder = progression in life
storm = obsticals in life

lieing eyes:
do you think you can tell if someone is lieing by looking them in the eyes? tell me three stories about your life. tell me two true stories and make one up on the spot. ill tell you which one i think is a lie...
...when a person looks to the left it means there accessing there memory. when a person looks to there right it means they are using there imagination.

keep your head up:
did you know optimistic people hold there head up higher and more pestimistic people look down? you can tell alot about a person by the way they carry themselves. you can always tell when someones faking, trying look presentable, because their body language just looks so tense and out of proportion. they say 93 percent of communication is through body language... so what we say is only seven percent of communication.

(a while after first meet) are you stalking me:
I think you have a confession to make... when i got out of the shower and went in my bedroom to get dressed there was a girl looking at me outside my window, and i swear she looked just like you! are you stalking me?

im amazing (cock funny):
-i know its probably realy intimidating being around a good looking guy like me. maybe you should put a bag over my head so that your not so distracted.
-I’m so tired of hot women hitting on me all the time, it gets annoying.
-I’m pretty high maintenance.
-Something smells great in here. Oh! it’s me.
-Hey, show’s over here!

bullshit answers
-(my name) cornelius
-(bullshit career answer) im a Professional kissing instructor... But don’t get any ideas, I don't do free sessions.
-(what proffesion am i seeking) im gonna be the guy that seduces rich women, then ill take there money and run
-(how old i am) 5 and three quarters

teasing:
what planet are you from?
do you have an off button?
how do you turn her off?
We need to find you a boyfreind.
I love your hair, it makes your head look normal.
i dont think you’re my type.
I don’t like you anymore.
You’re just too...
I can't look at you right now
I have to watch out for you.
you’re so annoying.
You’re such a brat!
you dork.
You’re so outside the circle of trust.
You would.
Note to self: do not date this girl.
You know what they say about girls who (insert)/coming from the girl who (insert)
you can't handle it/this/me.

role playing:

(who we're with, what we wear, where we go, what we do)
ex.

-you and i should dress up in cotumes, go to disney world, and tackle mickey mouse. lets see those muscles... flex... o yeah you could take out mickey for sure.

-i, you, and some kids should dress up as school kids, go to a chess tournement, you seduce the winner, and take all his money and run.

-i, you, and some bum should dress up like gangters, form a dance crew, go to a breakdance competition, and do the chicken dance.


getting informed about her life:

what are you up to?

were are you from?
how long have you lived here?

how old are you?

are you in school?
what are you going for?

do you have a job?
what do you do?

do you have any brothers or sisters?

(two or more set)So how do you all know each other?

qualification/tests/qualification games:

things to say during qualification:

-answer with secret code (yes or no answer):
if no blink twice. if yes give me a high five.

-understanding:
(ask question) be honest, ill be totaly understanding no matter what you say. (after answering) what! your crazy! get away from me!


level 1 (light and inderect)

proposal travel:
do you like to travel? my buddy is going to propose to his girlfreind, hes very rich, and hes trying to figure out somewere specail to take her. what do you think?

ex girls best friend:
my freind just broke up with his girlfreind. how long should he wait before starting something with her best freind?

shaved chest:
what do you think of hairy guys? me and my freind were using gym the other and while we were changing i seen he shaved his chest. he said he di it because his girlfreind ask him to! what do you think of that?

freind found $400 pair of sunglasses:
my freind found a $400 pair of sunglasses in a parking lot... and took them! he just kept them and weres them. what would you do if you just saw an expensive pair of glasses lying around?

whats the deal with girls and celebrity's:
i dont mean to group all girls together, but what is it it with girls and celeberitys. why they so obsessed with the lifes of celeberitys. i personal dont give a rats ass about britney spears personal life and who the latest celeb couple is.

men vs women:
who do you think has it easier in our culture men or women?
what would you do if you were a boy for a day?

drama:
how far does somebody have to go with another person for it to be consideres cheating? alot of time together? alot of touching? hand holding? kissing? sex?

level 2 (light direct questions)

trust:
can i trust you? if you stear me wrong im calling the cops

music:
do you like music?
what kind of music do you like?
do you play any instruments?
can you sing?

bad habits:
do you have any bad habits?
do you bite your nails?
do you bite your lips?
do you smoke?
do you drink?
do you do any drugs?
what was your worst experience with drugs or alchohal?

in the kitchen:
can you cook?
whats your best dish?
whats you favorite food?
do you eat healthy?

shopping:
do you like shopping?
whats your favorite thing to shop for... shoes? clothes? toys? decerations? grocerys?
where do you like to go shopping?
do you like going shopping with freinds?
do you ever go shopping and get more than you plan?
do you ever go grocery shopping and get nothing?

books:
do you like reading?
do you have a favorite author?
do you have a favorite book?
how long does it take you to read a book?

story qiuz:
qiuz them on a movie or book you both read

tv and movies:
do you watch much tv?
got a favorite channel or show?
do you like going to the movies?
what kind of movies do you like?
got a favorite actor?

athletic:
are you athletic?
do you you play any sports? dance counts!
do you like to dance? for fun? take any dance classes?

pets:
do you have any pets?
do you like pets?
you a cat or dog person?

friends:
what kind of things would your best friend say about you?
what is your best freind like?
are you good at dealing with people or do you get annoyed easily?
do your friends tend to be older or younger then you?
do most of your friends tend to be men or women?
who would you rather hang out with?

adventerous:
Are you adventurous? Well what’s the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done?

level 3 (personal questions)

murder to save the world:
would you kill an innocent person to save 1000 other people?

one ability:
if you could wake up tomorrow and gain one ability or quality what would it be?

happy and short or average and long:
would you have rather lived to 20 with an extraordinaryly happy life or live a long average life?

the button:
here is a test. you and someone you love deeply are locked in two seperate rooms. there is a button in each room. you will both die in 60 minutes. however, if you press the button you will save the other persons life but you will die. would you push the button or wait and hope the other person presses their button.

swimming:
when going to a swimming pool would you ease in or jump right in?

accomplishments:
whats your greatest accomplishment in life? do you have any long term goals you wish to accomplish?

grateful:
what are you most grateful about in your life?

memory:
what is your most treasured memory?
what do you think is more important the actual experience or the memory?

hate:
have you ever had a grudge on someone?
how long did your longest grudge it last?
what started it?
do you get in lots of fights with other people?
what kinds of things do you usualy get in arguments about?
do you ever get pissed off and yell and scream?

envy:
is there anyone you envy, that yo would want to trade live with?

lifestyle:
are you more of an organized or spontanious person?
do you like getting out or are you more of a homebody?
are you a partier?

attraction and love:
do you think there is a difference between attraction and love?

childhood:
what did you want to be when you were seven? and you cant say princess
where you a totaly different person when you were a kid?
did you believe monters were in your closet or under your bed when you were little?
did you have a favorite toy or possesion as a kid?

awkward moments:
you know those awkward moments? like when two people people eachother that dont know eachother or when you get left alone in a room with someone you dont know. some people say something to break the tension or fiddle with there phone or something. some people just ignore it and keep there mind on task. what do you do during those moments?

would you rather:
lets play would you rather: (alternativley ask eachother "would you rather" qeustions)
would you rather kiss a girl on the lips or kick a guy in the balls?
would you rather rich and unatractive or poor and beautiful?
would you rather be blind or deaf?

story telling:
lets see how imaginative you are. im gonna start telling a story off the top of my head then i stop at any point then you add onto it. for example i start with - once upon a time there was a little fish in the sea. he was about to get ate by a shark but he got caught in a fishers net. - i then give it to you and you say something like - the fish, relieved, swam away thinking he was safe, only to get ate by another shark - then you give it back to me and i say something like - the other shark then got loose from the net and was furious at the other shark for eating his food. then they turned into superpower mutent sharks and dueled eachother with there laserbeam powers - get it? ok, here i go - once upon a time - ok your turn.

great smelling hair:
i like girls with great smelling hair. (grab back of hair and pull slightly, put face next to hers and smell hair, look into her eyes, back off) ...its mediocer!

make-up test:
i dont like girls who were to much make-up. kiss my forearm and we will see if it leaves a mark...
...did you know girls digest most of there lipstick they put on!

supernatural:
do you believe in anything supernatural?
do you have any super powers?
who would win in a fight between SPAM and spiderman?
do you believe in ghosts? would you stay the night by yourself in a house that was believed to be haunted?
do you believe people can read other peoples minds?
do you think people can move stuff with there mind?
do you believe people can see into the future?

dreams:
do you think what people dream about is for a reason like memorys, whats on our mind, fortune telling or are they just random?
if you could control your dream what would you dream about?
there are people who can supposedly control there dreams.
what was your worst nightmare?

talking:
do you usualy initiate a conversation to meet people or wait to be approached?
do you usualy talk more or listen more in conversations?
what kind of things do you usualy talk about with other poeple?
when telling people stories do you ever exaggerate?

logical or emotional:
(arms down by side, bend elbow so forearms point forward) imagine there is a line going from one hand to the other. at one end, my left hand, is the mindset of someone who views the world more logicaly and observes how things realy work. on the other end, my right hand, is the mindset of someone more in the illusional, emotional world around them consumed by gossip, drama, and socail value. i suspect most people are somewhere around the middle. place your hand inbetween mine where you think you fall.

screw, marry, kill:
(point out three guys to her)
you have to marry one, kill one, and screw one, who would you do what to and why?

dating life:
whats the cut off age for how old of a guy you would date?
what kind of guys do you date?
would you date someone smarter than you?
would you date someone who got more attention for there looks than you?
would you leave a guy for another guy just for better sex?
would you stay with a guy you found out was cheating with you?

making judgements/observations:

leader:
I can tell you are the dominant girl of your group. you seem like a leader.

smarty pance:
good answer! your a smart one, i can tell... smarty pants.

interupter:
you interupted! your like one of those girls you hang out with and she just talks over everyone.

just go for it:
wow! you seem like a girl that would just go for it!

safety first:
interesting. you seem like some one who would stop herself before going to far. "safety first"!

space alien:
wow, you rock... for being from another planet. thats cool though. ive never had a space alien freind before. maybe you can take me for rides in your spaceship sometime.

your bad for me:
your bad. your making me think impure thoughts. your bad for me, I’m getting a restraining order

coolness points:
your awsome. im giving you 3 coolness points... get 15 and you get a prize!

high eight:
your cool, high eight! (high five with eight fingers) if your lucky ill show you my high ten later.

layed back:
You know, you actualy seem pretty chill, maybe.

exciting:
you know, you actualy seem pretty exciting, like an action movie! although some action movies have bad endings.

my girlfiend:
your grreat! you can be my new girlfriend... for the next five minutes

my wife:
your amazing! you can be my new wife for the rest of the day, but dont get greaty, when the clock strikes midnight your cinderella story is over!

you smell great:
whats that smell? are you wereing perfume? did you know depending on were you apply perfumes it smells different.

her laugh:
Your laugh is a disease. i love it!

(two or more set) freinds test:
you guys look at eachother when im talking to you. like your communicating to eachother with your facail expressions.

your trouble:
You seem like trouble. my mother warned me about girls like you.

too similar:
I can already tell that we’d never get along. we both like the same things. thats just weird.

you like me:
Are you always like this? Or just with guys you’re attracted to? stop trying to impress me.

sex object.
your looking at me like your undressing me with your eyes. cut it out. im not just some piece of meat... i have feelings too, you know... im not just some kind of sex object

Author:  Call Me Dre [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:27 am ]
Post subject: 

Ever heard the saying "the master never reveals all his secrets"? maybe you should take that into consideration,


On the other hand i think your doing a good thing by helping out the noobies,

to all you noobies out there, take example from this, make your own.. don't be a lazyass and just steal all his ideas/ work gathered

Author:  Tallahassee [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:03 pm ]
Post subject: 

Quote:
Ever heard the saying "the master never reveals all his secrets"?
Worked for Mystery

Author:  Call Me Dre [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:49 pm ]
Post subject: 

haha... thats funny... you think he revealed every trick in his book... the mans a genius, all he did was reveal stuff that he had come up with a few months earlier, if not years ago, haven't you wondered why some material is just not going to work now a days? because they used them in so many boot camps that now its out there,

Do you think he hasn't come up with new material? really?

But are you really comparing joejoejoe to mystery?


no offense joe

Author:  V3nu [ Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:31 am ]
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Daaaaamnnnn........How long did it take you to type or copy/paste all that lolz

True to Dre, why did you put out all your routines and material?

If just to help to others, then good for ya :D

btw it is not ALL for 'noobies', joejoejoe has some good stuff, which I never heard before, not his stories, but the fun single liners he has. Good stuff :D

V3nu :twisted:

Author:  Fly9 [ Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:32 am ]
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Hey man, I really enjoyed your post. I recently joined the community, but have been worknig on my game for a couple months now. Mostly great things- i'm gonig to take someone's previous advice and make my own cheat sheet since thats my main weakness is not stacking enough either openers, or any non-boring topic. Thanks!

F|y

Author:  Strange_Loops [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:17 am ]
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Great list mate!! Might just use a few!

Author:  delmontebanana [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:09 pm ]
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Blah, big frickin deal.

Canned material is just used for openers or keeping the conversation flowing/interesting when you struggle to find other things to say, if they've heard it then use another one. There's like 6.77billion people in the world, so 3-4billion women. I'd be shocked if there's even 1 single lady in that 3-4billion that's heard all the canned material.

By all means, keep the best ones to yourself if you so wish, but I think joe's done a tremendous job at helping noobie PUAs with his list. The PUA community would not exist if there was no sharing of information.

Author:  ~>Shady<~ [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:43 am ]
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haha nice post. I need too make a cheat sheet.

idk, if i missed it but you don't have any kino tests in there.

i have a GREAT ONE. Fakes almost every emition

but i think you just don't want too give out your kino tests

Author:  V3nu [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:36 am ]
Post subject: 

Quote:
i have a GREAT ONE. Fakes almost every emition
What do you mean by fakes?
Maybe share or a tip to which kino test that is Shady?

V3nu :twisted:

Author:  Call Me Dre [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:28 am ]
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alright banana, i want your cheat sheet on here, type up your best material, i want you to contribute to the community

Author:  ~>Shady<~ [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:39 am ]
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There is certain part's of your body that are more senstive then other's
Such as thighs,hands,arms,shoulder's,feet

that tingle feeling that all pua's out there made up. If you have the touch(you have too learn) you will be able too make the girl feel like that.

like a good kisser can be make fireworks too the girl.

remember love is just an emition. Nothing more.

touch the girl's palm in the middle and move too her thumb it gives her a feeling

There is many more.

Author:  -Achilles [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:50 am ]
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I never bothered about developing a cheat sheet, more in making a routine stack, a slightly different thing. even though, and taking into account I haven't read all of yours, I might learn a few things.


however, don't comment every single routine of yours. I'm sure Mystery is keeping a few for himself. Maybe you should do the same thing.

Author:  Zikki [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:26 am ]
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I can see why cheatsheets work, I kinda forget that altho Ive never really had any AA issues par se but I used to struggle with convo filler and fluff.

I think these sheets are an okish idea, but realistically I think everyone who gets classified as a PUA dont really use too much canned material.

I dont mind field testing some new lines I thought of, or trying a new technique. but primarily im building up an attractive lifestyle for myself by working on all areas of my life equally, im elevating my interpersonal game along with my career game, im developing my athletic game with my artistic game. Im trying to branch out in new directions, add some depth to my character so when I go into using DHV or opening I genuinely have interesting things to talk about.

Im young but in my 23 years I have established an amazing street reputation, I have a good rep with the women in my town, im always getting tail, im being headhunted for work, I have a strong group of male friends, I have a family that I love and love me, I have my own place to live, im mentally stable, ive dealt with all my emotional baggage, I have closure on all my LTR's, I have made peace with the wrongs I have done... u start to see the point? Life isnt a cheatsheet, life isnt a piece of paper or a routine you learn. Yeah canned material will give you an edge, it will make you think inside that you have the ability to suceed for once where you have noticed your failings previously. The problem is, canned material isnt true, and top end women can smell through BS like no tommorow.

You really need to make a character for yourself. The Zikki project as it stands today is maybe in its 3rd cycle of redevelopment.

I spent a year focusing on my personal interests, my career prospects, my hobbies, my lifestyle.

The I spent a year developing my interpersonal relationships, cutting the deadwood and building stronger bonds with the people that matter to me. I cut alot of people out of my life who only want to hold the old me back not see the new me move forward.

This is year 3, the year where Zikki shows the world he is ready, he is going to take over, hes going to be paving the way for a new generation of men, hes a leader, a great motivator, knowledgeable and resourcefull.

I made Zikki as the external reflection of my interal belief structure. I believe in god not relgion, i believe fate has a destination but we choose the route, I think bad things happen to bad people and good things only happen when you make them, I believe men have lost their power and need reinvigorating, I believe we live in a world where we really have no control and I hate it, im taking back whats mine, im taking back my life, im taking back my personality, im taking back my time.

Who wants to tell me otherwise????

Author:  Hypnotix [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:08 am ]
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^^^

Word to that!!

Im still in the first cycle of major self improvement. But ive made great strides, like you, in all areas of my life.....I broke up w/ my GF for this shit...

But as for the cheat sheet.....I look at material and routines as training wheels and convo filler to keep things going....Once you really get your game down I doubt you will need something likew this.....

It def does help tho

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