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Author:  crucifizzio [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  great natural kino...with a catch...
the catch is you have to be a submission wrestler/ jiu jitsu guy or at least know the basics of submission wrestling...

im a jiu jitsu guy its basically all chokes and arm/leg locks and its a wonderful thing to demonstrate on girls who are curious or god forbid ask to see some moves :)

under no circumstances should one actually apply the choke or anything more than 1% of your strength, the point is in no way to demonstrate the effectiveness of the techniques (who gives a crap eh?) but to get your hands on her in a very gentle, sexual and non fake way...demonstrating matrial arts is just a green light to put my hands on them...

i start with an "arm drag" (google it wrestling and arm drag watch the video)...from a standing position i GENTLY and slowly first grab her wrist and with my other hand i grab her elbow, taking extra care to look her in the eyes and gently stroke her inside arm before i set in my grip on the elbow (gentle grip)...then i drag her (slowly!!!) and "take her back" this means im now standing behind her...

now with my free hand i go for a "rear collar choke" (google it)...from behind i insert my arm under her chin and touch her neck with the back of my hand, taking extra care to gently stroke her neck as i insert my thumb inside her tshirt to grab for the collar choke...the whole time im holding her other hand and kinda putting her in a submissive possition from behind...its very sexy and natural but the key is not to be an asshole but rather a "sexy instructor"...under no circumstances should you actually apply the collar choke this would be just plain stupid...

takedowns are great fun i dont actually take them down! the double leg wrestling takedown is just perfect (google it) ...going down and inserting my head next to her chest and under her arm and grabbing both her thighs from behind and , ever so slowly and gently, picking her up off the floor and demonstrating just a little of what it would really look like...

leglocks are great!!! most can be done with your pretty female "opponent" still standing all you have to do is be able to do them from the floor...yes you have to be down cause theres no way she is getting down on the floor unless you are on a beach or somewhere at home...again you dont actually apply any pressure...imagine demonstrating on a 5 year old and you get my point= KINO

the king of the lot is the "rear naked choke" again when i insert my first hand for the choke its a stroking/caressing movement waaaay more obvious than in my first "technique" and its great to have her from behind in a submissive position again but GENTLY...this is powerful stuff it really is :)

granted this is not everybodys cup of tea...but its kick ass kino
Author:  jkenpo [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:23 am ]
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I agree this can be great stuff. I don't try to force it though, as I've encountered a few girls who aren't comfortable with this. Personally, I primarily mix this stuff in at home as it makes it easier to amp it up a little bit, perhaps into some playful wrestling. At home the floor becomes more of an option, and I have some various props that open up the subject a little more naturally. I've found that it's easy to unintentionally come across as boastful when talking about martial arts.

If she's really comfortable, the triangle is a great one too!
Author:  Tyrannon [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:50 am ]
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Holy crap man, I was totally thinking of doing this on my day two with this chick I met.

One word of caution though, I'm a professional martial artist instructor (former) and like he said up there, these techniques are real and dangerous, seriously don't try these unless you actually know what you are doing.

Another couple techniques you could try are wrist take downs, and mounts from the ground (obvious KINO buildup!).

There's the:
guard
full mount
half guard
side mount

Even teach her a couple techniques in and out of these positions, definitely easy way to buildup kino while also DHV, as she's definitely admiring you for knowing this. Plus, she'll feel safe around you, as she knows that she can rely on you to protect her. Just like mystery says:

"survive and replicate"
Author:  Drakelet [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:31 pm ]
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I started learning MMA two weeks ago. Learnt a couple takedowns and a couple submissions. Could be great fun, and yeah, loads of kino! Although have to be careful: a) obviously, don't hurt her (too much ;) ) and b) make sure she feels comfortable (things like the guard...).
Author:  crucifizzio [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:41 pm ]
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guys what you want to go for is the standing techniques...the ground stuff is a big problem when not at home...this stuff works in clubs/bars/street...you have to know how to "introduce" the subject at the right time if not asked but if asked its a "green light" you just grab her by the wrist and do the arm drag (GENTLY) then go for the neck (EVER SO GENTLY) and its 100% legit...i dont wait to be asked to demonstrate i just do it! "look this is BJJ i grab your wrist and elbow and pass your standing guard and take your back and with my free hand i grab the collar and move in for the choke" blah blah i could demonstate techniques for ever...i dont waste time explaining how BJJ is 99% ground game (who gives a crap?) i "introduce" my own "stand up" version :) ....OBVIOUSLY you have to wait for her to like you first!

the trick is to apply pressure like you would to a new born baby= the most caring and gentle touch you can come up with because if you apply anything more you are SUCH a moron...

at home on a thick soft carpet BJJ is GOLDEN! or god forbid on a big bed :)...



@tyrannon
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Even teach her a couple techniques in and out of these positions, definitely easy way to buildup kino while also DHV, as she's definitely admiring you for knowing this. Plus, she'll feel safe around you, as she knows that she can rely on you to protect her.
lol i feel like such an idiot for not thinking of this myself...big fat grin on my face bro!!! oh im such a good instructor :)))...thanks bro i know its kinda obvious that i should have continiued to let them touch me by showing them some moves, but it just didnt cross my mind LOL i was so enjoying the free kino :)))
Author:  Vaega [ Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:25 am ]
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I think a great one is you could show her the ogoshi, look it up. It's basically a throw where you kinda turn away from her and put her on your back, but in this you wouldn't finish it of course. And when you've got your back to her you could go "woah i was just teaching you some moves, don't get any ideas ;)"
Author:  Sun of Nothing [ Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:50 am ]
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YES! I grappled for 10 years (jujitsu and judo) there's honestly nothing better than throwing, rolling, fake submitting a girl to get her ready to be dominated by other means. Also gets her thinking a little more aggressive too.
Author:  daggaz [ Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:23 pm ]
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well i never tried to teach them control/submission moves, but a huge number of girls ive talked to are interested in just the basics of fighting. how to stand, how to throw a punch correctly, where to hit a guy so that it counts, etc.. They eat that shit up, and as well, all the better if you are teaching a young girl how to defend herself from rapists.

The best part I think is teaching them the kiss-bite, as I call it. "Say a guy comes in on you, and he overpowers you really quickly or you can just see that you really have no chance phyically because he is just HUGE. What do you do? Play along, go with his advances, act like you like it no matter how hard or how disgusting it is. Get his face close to yours (you are now free to "demonstrate" by putting your face right in on hers). Then when he is least expecting it, bite the end of his nose. HARD. You have to bite fast and get clean thru the cartilage. No man can fight after this damage.

If you show them the right way, they will usually end up very nearly kissing you (i dont actually go for the kiss here, but they want it now so its easy to get later.)
Author:  Endorphine [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:20 pm ]
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Natural kino is my speciality. I'm a massage therapist so I kinda get away with pretty much :D
Author:  ...SoDamnAddictive [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:30 pm ]
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Gotta agree fully on all of this, I'm mainly a striker (have done Boxing, Muay Thai and a lil Jujutsi and Ninjutso) and I gotta admit, as soon as they find out you can fight (it's even better if they didn't know and suddenly find out) they wanna know all the moves, great ops for major Kino and they start seeing you as an Alpha male almost immediately =)

Gotta love it =D
Author:  Undercover-lover [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:12 am ]
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My fav is explaing the center line to them. If you use just the right light sensual touch but show them in 100%seriouness they'll always get excited.
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