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Exgirlfriend cheated on you - is that a DLV?
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Author:  coolguy777 [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Exgirlfriend cheated on you - is that a DLV?
If you say that your exgirlfriend cheated on you, is that a DLV against you?

What if you say that you cheated on your ex? Is that a DLV?

(In the experimental routine, I say that I cheated on my ex girlfriend, to get back at her for cheating on me, and after that I "got rid" of her.)
Author:  daggaz [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:42 pm ]
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Both are DLVs for different reasons.

Your gf cheating on you is DLV because you are being "negatively selected" by a female. In purely evolutionary terms, the woman is taking advantage of you by getting you to provide for her and another man's offspring, and the reason she might do this is because while you might be able to provide for her, the other man has better genes. Not to mention she might not be able to get the other man to provide for her. At any rate, even in modern times, this is DLV.

You cheating on a gf is DLV in modern terms because its just underhanded and looked down upon. In genetic terms, well, this is expected of the sex that puts the least physical energy into creating the child, but later as we evolve, it means there is a higher risk that you will fail to provide for your original mate. You might just get her pregnant, and then run off and try to impregnate as many others as possible, reducing her chances for viable offspring.

On the other hand, if you arent caught cheating, but all the other women want you and you get lots of sex, then the woman is thinking, "I can win him, he will provide for me because Im the best alpha female, better than those others" so being a stud with the ladies ends up DHVing you.

Its a thin line, really, for us guys..
Author:  coolguy777 [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:04 pm ]
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Thanks a lot man, I'll be sure to exclude these from my routine.
Author:  coolguy777 [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:42 am ]
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1 more thing, if you said you hooked up with somebody else's girlfriend, would that be more or less of a DHV than if you said you hooked up with a single girl? Assuming you said you weren't friends with her boyfriend.
Author:  The Big Bad Wolf [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:50 pm ]
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If the woman chose to go somewhere else to satisfy her sexual needs........


What does that tell you about your performances in bed ?
What would others think it meant ?

Think through questions like this when you try to estimate how much it will DHV or DLV.

You could get the sympathy-vote.... but the women will wonder; why did she go somewhere else ?

most likely.
It's better to show that you're not one to kiss and tell, because they will then feel safe that you'll not make them out to seem like a slut for sleeping with you.



I have ex's telling girls I game, whenever I go out with them, that I am the single best person in bed, nobody has been able to give her orgasms like that...

That is DHV. ;)
It wouldn't be if it was me saying it. that would be bragging and the woman would go "yeah yeah yeah... as if..."
Author:  Stormy [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:39 pm ]
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Talking about how your ex cheated on you is bad, and I think it's more for a different reason than the one stated: it shows that you're still hung up on her.

It's not the fact that she cheated on you that can hurt you. It's the fact that you still waste time thinking about her.

Would you think less of a girl if you found out that one of her exes cheated on her? Probably not. What about a girl who's still pissed at her ex for cheating on her and still thinks about him and is still mad at him? That could cause problems. She's obviously not over him yet. Yeah, I know, different variables apply here, but I'm just trying to illustrate the point.

As for talking about cheating on your ex, I'd just stay away from this one. Not because there's anything special about cheating, but because I simply don't talk to girls I've just met about other girls I've slept with. If I do that, I'm communicating that if she sleeps with me, I'll run around telling everyone about it. Not good.

There are plenty of complications and exceptions to this, and you can read about them here: http://www.bristollair.com/inner-game/n ... ciety.html

But I generally prefer to avoid this altogether.
Author:  daggaz [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:04 pm ]
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Quote:
Would you think less of a girl if you found out that one of her exes cheated on her? Probably not. What about a girl who's still pissed at her ex for cheating on her and still thinks about him and is still mad at him? That could cause problems. She's obviously not over him yet. Yeah, I know, different variables apply here, but I'm just trying to illustrate the point.
Yeah except those different variables are a penis and a vagina... kinda hard to ignore that big of a difference. Its men vs women, there is a HUGE difference, that is why our game is tailored so differently. With a girl, you almost expect her to have been cheated on at some point in her life, because that is simply what guys DO. Not all of them, mind you, but ill be damned if its not upwards of 70% or more.

And sure women cheat all the time too, but im pretty sure its still quite a bit less, especially if you compare the risks they run to the ones a man is taking. At any rate its way more hush hush.

Ill agree on your second point tho, entirely. If either partner is all hung up on it, its a negative thing.
Author:  Nashon [ Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:43 am ]
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Men and women cheat equally. We love sex equally. Everything is equal.
What's the difference you might ask? The difference is in the cover up. Women have many more socially acceptable routes for sex than men.
HB (Solo could be Str8, Gay, or Bi)
HB+BF (Best Friend/Male or Female. Both Str8)
HB+BF (Best Friend/Male or Female. One Str8, Gay, or Bi)
HB+HB (Both Str8)
HB+HB (One Gay or Bi)
HB+HB (Both Gay or Bi)
HB+Guy (Both Str8)
HB+Guy (Both Gay or Bi)
HB+Guy (One Gay or Bi)
HB+HB+Guy (All Str8)
HB+HB+Guy (All Gay or Bi)
HB+HB+Guy (One Str8)
HB+HB+Guy (Two Str8)
HB+Guy+Guy (All Str8)
HB+Guy+Guy (All Gay or Bi)
HB+Guy+Guy (One Str8)
HB+Guy+Guy (Two Str8)
Not to mention four (4) or moresomes.

I may have missed some, but you get the point.
A women is therefore far more likely to have cheated.
Her secret is in her cover up.
By the by, you can only cheat if you're in a relationship.
That's why I stay solo that way it isn't on me and I never
have to deal with that mess.

What is a Str8 man's main option? Pussy. Plain and simple.
You can dress it however you like, but that's the bottom line.
It is what it is.
Author:  daggaz [ Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:40 pm ]
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yeah except in all honesty, they dont. There are plenty of real life scientific surveys, full anonymity and double blind, which show this result time and time again. Women cheat, and a lot more than most people assume, but they are surpassed by men. In every country tested.

Google it if you dont believe.
Author:  The Big Bad Wolf [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:04 pm ]
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I thought women cheated the most,

Although they complain most about cheating.


:P
Author:  Nashon [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:33 pm ]
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My point here is that given so many options.
How would you even know given the fact that they are also the best liars?

The point of being a PUA in my honest opinion is to simply avoid this trap.
If you are one of those guys who needs to have a girlfriend in this day and age be prepared to be cheated on because you stopped dangling the proverbial string and she WILL eventually seek it elsewhere, but by being a true PUA it also pitfalls you to an existence of constantly seeking that feeling of a relationship. It's a catch 22. The only way out is to befriend every woman you meet and build a constant stream of friends that float in and out of your life randomly enough that you don't have time to be lonely, but you inevitably will as this is just a theory.
Author:  daggaz [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:53 am ]
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You have two sexes. Any combination of the sexes can be reversed, so there are equally as many male focused combinations as there are female focused. If you then dont disregard the fact that men can be bisexual or homosexual as well, then there are equally as many chances for a man to cheat, statisticly, as for a woman.

And that is just counting possible outcomes. It completely ignores natural tendencies and behaviors.

Moral of the story? Dont talk about cheating on or having been cheated on, in order to attract a member of the opposite sex.
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