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Author:  Waves [ Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  1st attempt at a DHV story, would appreciate some feedback

Ok, im new her and fairly new to the art of pick-up. i've never used a DHV story before relying maining on DHV through inner game, so this is my first attempt at a potential opener leading straight into a DHV story and just wanted some feedback and suggestions

PUA: Hey Guys, I need a female opinion on something
HB: What?
PUA: Ok serious question, so think hard…does this shirt make me look Gay?
HB: Yes/No (if yes then neg)
PUA: I didn’t think so, but I swear that some guy just pinched my ass! I know I have a very pinchable ass but I think it’s the shirt that’s doing it!
HB: Why do you think it’s the shirt? (Or if she tries to look at your ass, then neg with Hey I’m up here…what a pervert...is she always like this?)
PUA: Well I can only stay a minute because I have to get back to my friends, but the reason I ask is that I have only wore this shirt once before, and a guy came on to me then as well, It was a couple of weeks ago after this gig we headlined. I was chatting to a couple of girls I know, they are some of my best friends...actually you remind me of one of them...anyway this guy came over and just started flirting with me, he started by smiling from across the bar, so I politely smiled back, the next thing I know he walking towards me starts chatting then touches my arm (Demonstrate on the HB, then neg her with your body language when you turn away back to the group) so he asks my name and starts chatting, which happens a lot after a gig, you always have guys coming up to you to say they enjoyed it...but then he steps closer and whispers, (Demonstrate on HB) "That shirt looks adorable on you."

(Group ask what was whispered, girls look at each other, chat, giggle etc)
PUA: Hah that’s awesome, can’t believe I didn’t notice that earlier
HB: what?
(then go straight into the best friends test)


hopefully it should show preselection, leader of men and humour plus has potential multiple threads cos the girls could ask about the gig, why she reminds me of my friend, what happened next etc...

i havent field tested this yet, any improvements you guys can suggest before i give it a try?

Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:27 pm ]
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I think you have a good opener and some great DHV spikes. But we need to break it up a little bit.

You're going to run out of oxygen and forget parts, so you need to shorten this a little if you can. This is just an opener so we don't need it too long, but I like the DHV spikes in them. I like the way you're doing the variation of Mystery's Gay Opener as well. This sounds more authentic.

Insert the False Time Constraint sooner in the interaction. Like after you ask if you can get their opinion. THe purpose is to defeat the thought of "when is this guy leaving" entering their minds. The sooner we through it out the better. And you can use them a few times is needed.

After you ask the question and get the answer then go into your story immediately. And use the words..."The reason I ask..." When we don't get that in there soon it's super obvious we're hitting on them. This part is called "grounding" the opener. Why did we come over here to ask this is being answered.

Then you can do "the reason I ask is because I swear a minute ago this guy just pinched my ass....And come to think of it when I wore this shirt last time...."

You're on the right track man, just fine tune it a bit. And go try it out this weekend!!! HAVE FUN BRO 8)

Author:  Waves [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:02 pm ]
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cool, i try putting the FTC earlier...any ideas on which sections i should be dropping in order to make it shorter?

Author:  JSmooth [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:43 pm ]
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Sorry I didn't see the post sooner. Here is exactly how I would re-write it to make it shorter and still try to hit a few DHV points. We can always DHV later we're just trying to get them talking right now. Anyways, here we go.

Let me get your opinion on something...I can only stay for a second because I'm here with friends...Seriously, do this shirt make me look gay? [No Pause, cut them off] Before you answer, the reason I ask is that some guy I swear just pinched my butt over there...I was talking to these girls right over there and this guy at the bar smiles at me. I was nice and politely smiled back. Then he drifts closer until eventually he's standing next to me and touching my arm and then the pinch! I've never been so embarrassed..."

So let me have it do I look gay or not?"


Don't let this drag out too long or the conversation goes stale. Cut it off with something like I have below.

You are demonstrating confidence, preselection, and even some vulnerability which is good as well. You nee dto use the embarrassed line in order to put in that "emotion" for the girls to pick up on. Guys are fact based women are emotional based in stories.

I'm going to have to get back to my friends in a second but...I was just reminded of the time...

Then you can insert a DHV story. OR if you need to stack another opener to get them to "hook" into you. then you can do that as well.

Home it helps.[/i]

Author:  manman [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:05 am ]
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lemme say something about DHV. You don't need to construct any routines really, or storys with DHV spikes. That is actually demonstrating DLV...on a subconscious level. So dont feel as though you ever have to demonstrate higher value through words. Assume higher value from the start. Your the fuckin prize, your the man, you already need to assume higher value. As feeling that you should do it verbally will ruin your inner game. And no one will t

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