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| Author: | Royal56 [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:44 am ] |
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I have finally gotten comfortable with opening new sets, and getting a groups attention. My big problem is that though I can throw in one, maybe two DHV stories, I quickly run out of material or just get chocked up and don't know where to go from there. I totally stall out on perfectly good sets simply because I don't know where to go, or I start to water everything down with small talk. I also have a problem isolating my target, as I always feel I'm paying her so little attention that she loses all interest. Any pointers? |
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| Author: | BIGRED [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:40 am ] |
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For one you need some confidence dont ever doubt yourself. You only need about 3-4 DHV stories anymore and you come accross as bragging. For isolateing tell her you need to show her something in another part of the venue or lets go for a smoke or lets talk somewhere quieter, but be sure to ask the set first. " is it ok if i steal your friend for a minuete?" Anything else? |
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| Author: | Psych_ [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:44 pm ] |
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If you go down this route you'll always have the problem of "what do I do now?" Instead of trying to make huge routine stacks that plan for every contingency, understand that a PU is dynamic and always different. If you break down why the routines work and create a structured approach then you can be much more natural and have more ideas on what to do or say. For example instead of figuring out which roleplaying routine to use just understand the structure of roleplaying, why it's used, and when to use it. Then when the moment comes you'll know now is the time to roleplay and can call upon an old routine you heard or make something up on the spot. Try and have the girls comfortable with you while adding to their night instead of worrying about the perfect thing to say. Focus more on the fun energy you give off also and think in terms of structures not routines. Hope this helps Psych |
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| Author: | soundwave [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:28 am ] |
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I actually heard this on the Mystery Method interview series and I've tried it myself and it seems to work. Basically I had trouble with running out of things to say also, so when it happens to me I just say: "Well I have to get back to my friends, maybe I'll talk to you later" Then I leave. Hopefully you have built enough attraction and DHV'ed enough that the target will either find you later and re-engage you or you can find her again re-engage her later. |
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| Author: | AceofSpades07 [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:47 pm ] |
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First i would not recomend leaving if you havnt built enough attraction to gaurenntee to get yourself back in later. If you have thats different though. One thing that it seems like is working on your conversation skills. If you have some pretty good routines and stories its likley that they will want to give their opinions and input on them. Practice working on things to say based on the girls respopnses and this youll have to improvise for the most part. |
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| Author: | V1V [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:54 pm ] |
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Learn cold readings, and study the concepts of the DHV. What makes a DHV? Force yourself to use them at first. Do something about 42 times and it becomes a habit. This way you wont even need canned stories - you can just talk if your mind blanks. |
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| Author: | Royal56 [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:10 am ] |
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Thanks guys, I'm heading out tonight and I'll try out some of these things. Wish me luck! I'll let you know how the night turns out! |
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