Great Post sL!CK. 10/10
Will be useing this new found knowledge this weekend i think.
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| Author: | sL!CK [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:09 am ] |
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I've seen a lot of guys come up with their negs, or state how they have used one in the field with a gross misconception of what in fact a neg is and how to use it properly. There are also instances of overdoing it a lot. Remember, a proper neg can only work in specific situations. Before we begin our in-depth study of negs, let's learn what a neg IS NOT. a) A neg is NOT an insult. "You are a bitch" is merely an insult, not a neg. b) A neg is NOT meant to be cruel. "You are too fat for me" is not a neg-hit; it is being unnecessarily cruel. c) And finally, and perhaps most importantly, a neg is NOT some magic spell that you can speak and have women fall all over you. But it's the closest thing you will get to that! Ok, so now that we know what a neg ISN'T, let us proceed to find out what a neg IS. Remember that a neg is a remark, sometimes humorous, used to point out a woman's flaws. a) A neg IS used to penetrate a woman's bitch shield. b) A neg IS used to bring a woman down off her pedestal. c) A neg is SINCERE. Women can spot phony a mile away. d) And most importantly, a neg IS used to bring a woman's self perception more into line with reality. Now that you know what a neg is and isn't, let's discuss upon whom you should deliver a neg. A neg can be safely used on a 9.5 or 10 who KNOWS she ranks that high. A neg can also be safely used on any girl who THINKS she is a 9 or 10, even if she is actually a 6 or a 7 (these are usually "daddy's girls"). Don't use a neg on either of these types of women if they are feeling particularly bad about themselves that day. They may just hate you for it. The effect of a good neg on a woman's psyche is something to behold. It does 4 things simultaneously. 1) Since those high quality women are used to men kissing their ass, it will confuse them. "This guy isn't falling all over me like a puppy dog. Why is that? Is my (whatever flaw) really that bad?" It throws them off balance and makes them self-conscious. 2) It will pique their curiosity about you, and you become something of a mystery. "Why isn't this guy acting like every other AFC I meet? How come my looks haven't immediately charmed him? What is up with this guy?" 3) It will create a challenge. "This guy must have REALLY high standards. I don't think he likes me. Everyone else likes me. I MUST get him to like me!" 4) It lets her know that you don't think she is anything special based on her looks alone. "He isn't amazed by how I look? Why? *GASP* Am I in the presence of a REAL man? Oh, I think my panties are wet!" After the neg, watch her eyes. You will see her go "Hey!" And then you will actually SEE her run through all 4 of those stages mentioned above. It really is amazing. So don't be rude with it, limit it for only the 9's and 10's and girls who think they are, and 2-3 negs max. Neg-hits can be delivered in one of two ways. One way is to deliver it straight, without any indication that you are joking or playing. This works best on girls who are extremely stuck up about some aspect of themselves. These come off sounding "You're nice, but I've seen better". Girls who just have their bitch shield up, or the girls that think they are hotter than they really are, get the second delivery -- which is in a humorous way. You deliver the neg with humor and laughter. This says to her, "Yes, I am aware of your flaw, but I think it's cute." There are three main groups (for lack of a better term) around which you will neg. The first is her choices (choice of dress, hair style, makeup, etc). The second is her physical characteristics. Included in this is how she moves/speaks/eats/etc. Third (very rare and hard to accomplish) is her actions (how she treats someone, manners, etc.). 1) Choice neg-hits can be used as opening "lines", or can be used during a conversation. Examples of Choice Neg-Hits: + "Hey, I like that outfit. **pause for her response** Yeah, my (mother/aunt/grandmother) has one just like it!" This one is a classic. + "You have a very pretty face, but you should use less makeup. Makeup should be used to enhance a woman's beauty, not hide it." + "You have really beautiful hair. **pause** You should grow it (shorter/longer). It would go much better with the shape of your face." + "That outfit is really sharp. **pause** It would look much better if it were (some other color)." + "Nice outfit! **pause** I saw another woman here wearing the exact same thing!" Women HATE this. (Personally, if a guy was wearing the same thing as me, I'd just think he had good taste.) + "Have you highlighted your hair? **pause for her response** Why do women ruin their luxurious hair with highlights?" + "You have very pretty (blue/brown/black/green/hazel) eyes. **pause** You shouldn't use (so much/so little) eye shadow. It detracts from the color of your eyes." 2) Physical trait neg-hits are best delivered in a humorous way, unless the woman is EXTREMELY hot or stuck up. Remember, you are pointing out flaws, but only because you think it's CUTE. Don't just walk up and use these as openers. You should already have a conversation going when using these negs. You MUST use humor with thes, on all except the most hot or stuck up chicks, because otherwise you just sound like an ass. Examples of Physical Trait Neg-Hits: + "Do you know your nose wiggles when you (talk/laugh/drink)?" + "You have little crinkles around your eyes when you laugh." + "Hey, you've got a little bit of a mustache!" Yes, I've successfully used this one. If you look close enough, ALL women have a little bit of hair on their top lip. Some are more noticeable than others, but they all have it. It is best used if you lean in real close (almost like a kiss) while looking at her lips, then laugh and lean back. She will ask you what is so funny. + "I like women with weak/strong chins." (Her mind: "He thinks I have a weak/strong chin? Is a weak/strong chin good or bad? Do most men prefer weak/strong chins?") + "You have really long/short fingers. Most guys prefer a woman with short/long fingers." Note how you didn't mention YOUR preference, merely "most men." These will leave her guessing as to which you prefer. As we all know, any time she is thinking about YOU, it's a good thing! + "An attractive girl like you should take better care of her nails." + "You have a weird sense of humor." + "It's kind of rude to chew with your mouth open." + "Ewwww! You just spit on me!" (said while she is talking, and you are brushing off the front of your shirt). + "Please don't interrupt me while I am speaking." Girls often do this unconsciously. Have you ever sat around and REALLY paid attention to a bunch of girls talking? + "Do you use a conditioner for split-ends?" + "You have a really big/small/weird nose!" + If she mentions she has a big butt or looks fat (called "fishing for a compliment", because she is trying to get you to compliment her), say "Nah, Sir Mix-A-Lot (or Puff Daddy) would love a butt like that!" Notice that you told her what someone else would think of her butt, but (no pun intended) you haven't told her what YOU think of it. Ok, that should give you some examples on physical trait neg. Use your imagination. Remember, it is VERY easy to sound cruel when saying these types of things, so use humor. You're pointing it out because you think it's "cute" (awwwwww!), not because you are being mean or cruel. This will be translated by the girl to the following internal conversation "He thinks my <somebodypart> is <somecharacteristic>? No one has ever told me that. But he thinks it's cute. Do other guys think like him? I certainly don't think he is like other guys! Is my <somebodypart> REALLY <somecharacteristic>?" Notice how many times YOU were brought up in that internal conversation, which happens in a blink of the eye? 3) The last type of neg, the "Action" neg, is the most difficult to pull off without sounding like a pompous prick. It is best reserved for girls that shoot you down before you even get a chance to talk with them. You know the ones that I am talking about. You walk up and say "Hi" and they give you a shitty look, or say "I'm not interested" right away. Those types of women. Although you can get away with these types of neg on any stuck up girl. This is basically calling a woman on her bullshit when you don't even know her. Examples of Action Negs: + If you go up to talk to a woman, and she shoots you down before you even speak to her: "Hey lady, **laugh** all I wanted to do was to ask you for the ashtray/salt/ketchup/time/whatever. **laugh again, start to walk away, then say** I'll be right over here when you want to apologize." (Notice, not "if" but "when"). Walk away laughing. Every time you catch her looking your way, laugh her way. + "You know, it is really unbecoming for a woman like yourself to be so snobbish." + "You behaved very rudely. Weren't you taught proper manners?" This is best used if you overhear her interaction with someone else, and she WAS behaving rudely. + When she says something totally ludicrous ("I really like nice guys", etc.) "You are SO full of shit!" Guys, watch the deer-caught-in-the-headlights look! It's hilarious. She'll not have a response for this. This is my all time favorite! Be prepared to explain why you thought so, because when she recovers her composure she will most certainly ask for an explanation. + If she cusses a lot, "Do you know how unattractive it is when a woman speaks like that?" + "Please be a little more considerate where you are blowing your smoke." + Correct her grammar. (Especially difficult to pull off without sounding pompous.) After the neg, be prepared for her to neg you back! Sometime later in the conversation, she will tease you about some trait you have, or something you said. You must shoot some smartass comment right back at her. This, in effect, is a test. Pass this test and you will have gotten a LOT farther than you would have otherwise. |
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| Author: | narcist [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:25 pm ] |
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Great post! |
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| Author: | They Call Me Lucid [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:53 pm ] |
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THIS SHOULD BE A STICKY! it drives me nuts when guys come here saying "hey check out this neg" and it just ends up the guy was an asshole to a girl (which isnt necessarily bad... its just not a neg). anyway... kudos. |
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| Author: | AV8OR [ Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:37 pm ] |
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can u give some examples of responses to the negs they'll shoot us, those negs are unreal its genius!! |
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| Author: | sL!CK [ Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:45 pm ] |
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The respose should pretty positive if the neg is delivered right. She will usually not even verbaly respond, but it will make her think and shatter her frame. The response to more playful negs I usually get is something like "that's not true" or "you're mean" with a playfull pouty face and usually a playfull punch or a slap on the shoulder. Have fun with it |
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| Author: | waddo10 [ Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:41 pm ] |
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Great Post sL!CK. 10/10 Will be useing this new found knowledge this weekend i think.
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| Author: | sL!CK [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:21 pm ] |
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Always glad to help. Keep an eye out, I'm working on another couple of good ones. And why wait for the weekend. Go use it on a friend, a stranger or anyone else right now. |
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