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Author:  looking_at_the_sunset [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Negs... turning even HB off, need advice
Hi!
I noticed that my negs are not always working. Sometimes they turn the girl I'm gaming off. For example, I built some atraction and comfort with HB9, very beautiful and intelligent girl. Now I am trying to set a date, but when I talk with her by messenger and use negs, she takes them personally or thinks I'm rude to her and want her to feel bad. Even when I add emoticons ( :) :D :P etc. ). When I continue with "What? You do not have a sense of humour?" she replies with "I have, but a different one". Or "Yea, now you will sulk?" she replies "No, I will not give you that satisfaction" with a serious attitiude and stops talking.

When I was using negs on her talking real (not through internet), she was always giggling or smiling.

Maybe it is all about all the body language, voice tonality and whole context which talking through internet lacks?
Author:  JSmooth [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:23 pm ]
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I've used negs online with no problem with emoticons like you described. Here is what I think you may be doing, if not please correct me. You are throwing out too many negs! When you meet a girl you start down here _ and she starts up here --- so you use negs to lower her value slightly to get you all on a level playing field. Even for HB10s you don't need a whole slew of them, 2-4 will usually do. On a girl that's not a ten typicall 2-3 slight negs will work fine.

Once you get to comfort its time to turn the negs off! Then you just use IODs with body language or delay calling her back, texting, etc. If you are still negging in comfort phase it would explain her reaction. She's attracted, you built comfort to get close to her. Then you negged her again, and she's going to loose attraction.
Author:  looking_at_the_sunset [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:33 pm ]
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Thanks man, I think it could be it.
Now I'm wondering what could happen if I delay texting endless - it were 2 weeks before I text her from when we last see each other, and now we are texting rarely. I am not obsessed with her and I am not texting 3 times a day :), but after 5-6 days I start wondering if she in the end wants to meet me or not. She always do not have time altough we both decided before that we will go somewhere together.
Author:  Master Monr0e [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:56 am ]
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I have ask what is a HB, HB8, HB9, HB10? I googled it and it was not to clear.
Author:  Chairman [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:36 am ]
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I used to have some of the same problems with negs, but in real life.

Obviously if they are a HB 9 they have a higher 'pain tolerance' for negs that will get me blown out of a HB<8 set.

The problem could be with the concept of 'throw and go' and mytery talks about. After you drop a neg you have to keep on rolling and not dwell on it, which can kill the convo. With IMs I could see this being a problem, maybe do a lighter neg (remember, she can't see your body language that can emphasize the playfullness) then instantly follow up with another neg to keep the ball rolling.
Author:  looking_at_the_sunset [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:05 pm ]
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We met today with group of friends and I told her playfully that she probably hears nice things all the time and there should be someone to bring her down :) She replayed that she do not like hearing bad things at all. But I don't think so, she's too hot. Today I didn't say anything unpleasent but IOD by talkin to other girl almost na hour, and then I talk to my target and her friends. Well, I'll be still testing some things on her, she has a bf so I do not expect anything but why not try. Thanks for all response!
Author:  Sardonyx [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:26 pm ]
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I have ask what is a HB, HB8, HB9, HB10? I googled it and it was not to clear.
HB = "Hot Babe"

The numbers are a rating system on a scale out of 10. I know it seems a little trite, but it is a way to let everyone know what type of girl you are talking about. Since you need to treat a higher rated girl differently than a lower rated one, it is important to let people know what you are dealing with when you solicit advice. I don't rate women like that unless it is absolutely necessary to get a point across online.

That's my two cents...
Author:  Sardonyx [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:28 pm ]
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I've used negs online with no problem with emoticons like you described. Here is what I think you may be doing, if not please correct me. You are throwing out too many negs! When you meet a girl you start down here _ and she starts up here --- so you use negs to lower her value slightly to get you all on a level playing field. Even for HB10s you don't need a whole slew of them, 2-4 will usually do. On a girl that's not a ten typicall 2-3 slight negs will work fine.

Once you get to comfort its time to turn the negs off! Then you just use IODs with body language or delay calling her back, texting, etc. If you are still negging in comfort phase it would explain her reaction. She's attracted, you built comfort to get close to her. Then you negged her again, and she's going to loose attraction.
YES!!! J Smooth, I could kiss you! I didn't say you could kiss me, it just looked like you had something on your mind... :lol:
Author:  Master Monr0e [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:34 pm ]
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Thanks thats what I thought, I wanted to know for sure.
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