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NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
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Author:  Negtar [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:22 am ]
Post subject:  NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
Hi guys, I am quite new in pick up community.
For you guys' better understanding of the report, I would like to give a little summary of myself.
First of all, I live in Malta, a small Mediterranean island, and I am the only Asian in this high school.
I used to be a massive AFC and Wuss, but after about a month of digging into every book and video
that is related to pickup, I decided to change myself. I started to wear nicely, have a nice hairstyle,
talk to many cool people and start to expand my social circle. Within a month, I became quite cool,
and girls who used to ignore me completely are now my casual buddies. I'm 17, but due to lovely lenient law of Malta, I am legally permitted to buy alcohol and go clubbing; and I got to know most of bouncers, bartenders and cool people in clubs. So now you guys have a brief image of who I am. Yes I changed quite quickly, but I am still a newbie, I don't know what the hell I am doing. I need you guys' help :)

I am really a huge fan of Mystery Method or Venusian Arts, and Real Social Dynamics. I try to use those materials when I attempt to pick up girls. So far, I have hit on two Russian girls. I KISS-CLOSED the second one quite easily. I've also done an analysis on what I possibly did wrong: I fixed the mistakes I had done to the first girl, and then tried again, but I still had some mistakes. I'll tell you in detail, what I think I did right and what I think I did wrong.

What I think I did right:
1) I made a massive social proof; I basically knew most of people in the club, so she saw me running around the club greeting everyone.
2) Lots of Flash games: taking photos with female friends, Djs....
3) Willingness to walk away: not facing her directly before making a move
4) Calm body language
5) Negs

What I think I REALLY went wrong:
1) I did A1 phase successfully, but SKIPPED A2 phase, and moved straight into A3.
2) Although I did kino escalation from waist, elbow, hand hold to move around in the club,
at one point, I found myself making out with her for solid 20 minutes, at least.
3) Making out session was way too intense and intimate (I worried about the buyers remorse, actually)

AND what I had worried about became the reality:
this is the Facebook message(she didn't have credit) we had

Me: Knock Knock!
HB: Im here
Me: Well hello there :)
HB: Hi Again:)
Me: Huh, it's been the roughest week i had in senior life. A bottle of cold beer is all I want
HB: Hah:) actually I wanted to say you something. Sorry that I kissed you. ;) I was a little bit drunk :D
Me: No biggie!
No worries, we all had a goodnight, and it's not a big deal:)
HB: :D
Me: How did your weekend pass, (NAME)? ;)
HB: It was nice. Nothing special :) Friday was the best day on this week ;) :D
And how was your week?
Me: That's quite true, it was one of the most impressive night out I had.
My week...quite chilled and busy at the same time
This morning was wonderful
It's my kind of thing to go have a breakfast at McCafe or Costa every Sunday in the early
Morning
I've done this for more than 3months now, and what's so interesting about is it's so chilled, weather's not hot, you see old people and tourists walking around
Sounds amazing right? I love Sunday so much.
HB: Yes. It sounds great. You are romantic as I can see :D
Me: Aw, thank you for that:) are you a romantic person or more like energetic one?
HB: I think romantic too :D
Me: I see:) boy-girl stuff aside, we should definitely have some chilled day out
HB: Ahah
Maybe one day :D
Me: Cool:) I'll let you know when there's any social gathering I can take you with. *back to work, ttyl*
HB: See you


I am pretty damn sure she's having the buyers remorse. So, I am planning to go all the way back to A2 phase
and actually build attraction slowly. Right now I am not sure whether I displayed too much of AFC-ness or wheter I am friendzoned, but I would like to keep pushing this game I started. We see almost everyday in school, and I would also like to know what I can do with her in school.

Thank you very much guys, I haven't slept much so my writing can seem messy:)
Help me out)
Author:  Zirk13 [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
to be honest man you handled her buyers remorse, you allowed her to escape backwards a little, like you suggested the going back to A1 and A2 would work for you and just escalate again like the first time didn't happen.

you showed some great things in your chat message

1. you kept it pretty short and simple,
2. you caught that she wasn't to sure after her saying maybe one day
3. you through what I believe NLP really is, which is just describing how you feel about Mcafe
4. to the above you didn't force the topic of the make out, and were able to talk about other things.

honestly I think you still have a great shot with this girl just find a way for a meet again and treat it as though it was the first time you met again A1 A2 etc.

and this time no making out for 20 mins, end it first early make her chase you for the longer makeout.

By the way great report as it was very well written.

Im quite surprised others haven't reported on this, but really they shouldn't have to you have it well answered before you asked the question
Author:  Negtar [ Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
Cheers for the reply:)
As I'm still a newbie, although I think I'm doing right, I am not always 100% sure on it
It's always fantastic for someone else to give me some feed backs ;)
Thanks man, I have quite a lot of parties coming, so I might invite her out (after building some
good foundation of A2 and A3 in and out of school.)

Yeah I totally agree, actually she was the one who leaned in for the kiss.
I was too lenient, I just kissed her anyway. Probably this time, I might play
what mystery did - saying something like "Whoa whoa, let's slow things down a little"
to make her chase for more)
Author:  Xoved [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
Don't go with all this "woah woah" stuff.
Just say "we should take things slower" and keep kissing her, she'll want it more.

You played your game well.
When she said "I'm sorry I kissed you I was drunk" BULLSHIT. She wants it to happen again, I promise you. I've been through this phase a dozen times. Every other day a girl tells me "let's forget about yesterday night, we were both drunk", I usually end up doing it all over again later. She just doesn't want to seem like a slut, she has to be more comfortable with you to do it again.

So yeah, just act casual next time you see her and escalate again, she'll go for it.
Author:  Negtar [ Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
Quote:
Don't go with all this "woah woah" stuff.
Just say "we should take things slower" and keep kissing her, she'll want it more.

You played your game well.
When she said "I'm sorry I kissed you I was drunk" BULLSHIT. She wants it to happen again, I promise you. I've been through this phase a dozen times. Every other day a girl tells me "let's forget about yesterday night, we were both drunk", I usually end up doing it all over again later. She just doesn't want to seem like a slut, she has to be more comfortable with you to do it again.

So yeah, just act casual next time you see her and escalate again, she'll go for it.
Like..you serious? haha I've always thought that was buyers remorse and that she doesn't want to kiss me again :P haha sounds good to me!
Author:  Xoved [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
Quote:
Quote:
Don't go with all this "woah woah" stuff.
Just say "we should take things slower" and keep kissing her, she'll want it more.

You played your game well.
When she said "I'm sorry I kissed you I was drunk" BULLSHIT. She wants it to happen again, I promise you. I've been through this phase a dozen times. Every other day a girl tells me "let's forget about yesterday night, we were both drunk", I usually end up doing it all over again later. She just doesn't want to seem like a slut, she has to be more comfortable with you to do it again.

So yeah, just act casual next time you see her and escalate again, she'll go for it.
Like..you serious? haha I've always thought that was buyers remorse and that she doesn't want to kiss me again :P haha sounds good to me!
I don't believe in buyer's remorse to be honest. Girls WANT sex, and they love it when there is no attachment. Actually, they crave it. Telling you that she was drunk does not justify it, she wanted it at the time. Just don't be too pushy on her or pressure her into doing anything. Do your thing and she'll go for it.

PS: If she gets drunk again, she'll do it.
I found out that girls find guys who they kissed before easier to trust.
Many girls go with the saying "we did it before, doesn't matter if we do it again"
Author:  Negtar [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NEWBIE problem: She's having a buyers remorse.
Thanks man, helped a lot!
Actually I just set up a date with her; tomorrow after school, we are going to the Spanish bar and having some wine)
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