Wow! Thanks Stealth! I really really really appreciate it!
Sorry I’m not up with all the lingo like KINO and IOI etc... he he. I’m totally new to all this. You know what is really weird? Another one of the girls I’m into told me about this whole PUA thing. We were in the bookstore and she was like you should read this - pointing to Mystery's book. I think she has read it. How strange is that? But it is also fucked up because it means I won’t be about to use it on her because she already knows all the tricks! But anyway that's another story. Her name is, for our purposes, N. I totally dig her too (I know I’m greedy) but she is a weird one - really hard to read. I refer to her below.
That solar-system game sounds pretty wack but I will definitely give it a go.
Ha ha. Don't worry about the bruises - it was a sort of joke we had because she couldn't figure out where they came from. Later she texted me one day telling me she figured out how she got them - on the bus - banging her knees against the seat in front. She wasn't intentionally hurting herself to get my attention - but when she does get them she does make sure that I know about it. IOI? Same with the rash example I gave above etc... So I guess that is maybe a IOI?
Re my mate” I think my friend is just a little more observant and experienced then me. I don't think he knows “the game” but he has some element of game. But he has a serious GF anyway.
R:
Wow so good signs for me. I will totally do that. I will Kino and neg her into oblivion! Thanks for that. And I think that is a great tip re being alpha male - generally I’m the exact opposite. My general disposition is indifference (comes with being an apathetic Australian), which is a great way to be, but not around chicks! So that is something I really have to change.
Yeah will go out a see other chicks. I didn't know that is a great way to get jealousy and thus a great way to PU. I have being doing this to R (and a little with J) without really realizing it. ha ha. And she (R) doesn't like it. She knows N (the girl in my bookstore story above). She never has anything really nice to say about N, but N is a really nice girl, no bitchiness or anything - hard to dislike her. R just gives a short subtle stinging remark in reply if I say anything about N. So that's good. I will use it. It is amazing how jealous girls are.
With J she also knows N. She told me that she thought N and me were going out. I said ”No“. I’m guessing I should have said something else, more suggestive to build up jealousy. And she asked a couple of times why I don't go out with N. Because I’m not sure what to do I just try and shut the question down and say ”N is a weird girl“. So I need some help here.
Although, another one of my buddies who is totally into J, inadvertently helped me out in that regard. He said to her that I have ”a fan-club of girls at uni.“ Now I think he was trying to make me look bad in J's eyes (bastard!). But it probably works in my favour jealousy-wise, right? I only know that he said this because she asked me ”Your mate said you have a fanclub of girls who follow you around blah blah.“ Firstly I shut down the situation and ”said oh yeah and laughed.“ ”Be cool!“ I’m saying in me head. ha ha She persisted and I fucked up (only realizing it know after going through these forums) and said something like “yeah I know some girls” but I didn't make it suggestive enough to build jealousy-tension. But I think I can still use it.
I’m thinking my ”dish towel“ example might be an example of jealousy now that I think about it. I came back late the night that happened and I might have been out with N, or at the very least, J might have thought I was out with N (I never say where I'm going or have been) and maybe that's why she hit out me - the green monster of jealousy! lol
A few specific questions:
1) Is this a good idea?
I get in contact with J and organize dinner/movie. So lets say I call her on a Monday or Tuesday for dinner/movie on Friday. Now I want to build on this jealousy thing. Now what if I was to then text J back on Thursday (or the Friday morning) and say ”Oh sorry J. I forgot I had a date with N tonight. So can't make our planned dinner/movie. TTYL.“ Now I guess that is pretty mean. Is that a good idea? I’m a n00b so it might be a really bad idea and I have no idea.
I can't use N with R because they know each other and I don't know if I will be able to schedule a date with each of them on the same night - there is a great chance they would both find out what I was up to. But if you think it is a good idea, I can probably find another way of doing same thing with R.
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You said ”About J, since she's comfortable with your touch; she's accustomed by it and feels it's normal.“ So is that good or bad? What I’m doing is KINO right? so that's good? Damn her flashing her skin at me!
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If anyone else wants to impart their words of wisdom it would be greatly appreciated. For example, what do I do about this gift-giving situation - driving me crazy! Girls are always giving me stuff! J gives me food and does my laundry, N gave me her electric fan because I was bitching about how hot it was, R gives me a curry. Are these good or bad signs? If they are bad signs (i.e. indications that I’m heading towards friend zone) what should I do? Refuse them I guess. But how? Do I just be an asshole and say ”I don't want it”. ?
Thanks again for your help Stealth7!!!!!!!!!! I really appreciate it. I’m glad you like the story - it was meant to be humorous too. Story of my life really these types of things ha ha. Getting close to girls and then fucking it up. lol. I’m glad they provide entertainment and hopefully help others too.
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