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| Author: | Castlemount [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | NEGGING: How far should you go? |
I kind of accidentally delivered two borderline offensive negs to two separate good looking women regarding their physical appearance in the past week and both times it appears to have worked in my favor, or at least not put me out of the running. 1) AGE On St. Patty's day I ended up speaking to a very attractive college girl and somehow we got on the topic of age (perhaps because I'm 34 and she's 21) and she asked me to guess her age. I joked that she was 38 or 39, not really thinking she would in any way take me seriously. But she did. She got really offended and acted all shocked and started telling people what I had said, but I just laughed it off and acted like I didn't believe she was actually taking me seriously (even though I knew she was) and talked to these other folks. Since she kept it up for awhile, I did eventually remind her I was joking, let her know not to take the flippant words of strangers too seriously, and then she actually opened up to me all about her insecurity with herself--she's an HB8.5--and I was able to be there to encourage her to be her best self and not worry about what others thought about her until she got the "doggy dinner bowl" look in her eyes. Somehow, after all of this, she ended up offering me her number. 2) NOSE Last week I was at a concert and I approached a woman I had already spoken to briefly earlier in the night and let her know I liked her nose. I went on to say I thought she was Jewish and Italian (I'm Jewish) and she asked whether I was saying she had a big nose. So I said that I kind of was, but I liked it. She got really offended, did the thing the other woman did by telling her friends and others, while I laughed it off. I bumped into her a few times later in the night, one time she didn't speak much to me, the next time she said that she didn't want to talk to me in front of her guy friend--who got stern-looking until I told him what I said to her and he laughed too. Then later in the night I spoke to her again and she told me she wasn't mad (she actually was Jewish and Italian and said it just bugged her that she was so easy to figure out), pushed her breasts up against me to tell me this in my ear, and I saw her one more time before I left and said goodbye. I didn't go for a number close because I figured I had actually gone too far this time... But I saw her a few nights later at another concert, her face lit up right when she saw me and she told me I had to buy her a drink to make up for the other night. I told her I didn't usually do that, but I would under these circumstances. We had a quick flirty, friendly chat and then I told her I needed to go back to my friends. I was working on another set that night, so I left it at that. However, my town isn't that big, we saw each other twice in one week, chances are I'll see her again soon and she knows that. Now we'll see if I can take things anywhere. But no matter what, I still learned that it's possible to generate some attraction even after delivering a kind of harshly perceived (if not delivered) neg on a woman's physical appearance. I think the lesson here is that you can go further than you'd think with negging, so long as you do it with good humor and then make sure to stick around or come back to make nice (without supplicating yourself)--push and pull. I'm not sure if this just means I was lucky enough to salvage a mistake and should've toned things down from the start, or it was going as far as I went that actually made things work. Needless to say, I don't recommend any of the above, since a lot of what I was doing was basically damage control. And certainly don't recommend ever being mean to women. It just so happens that I never dreamed those minor negs could be taken so seriously. And once they were out, I certainly never thought I could bring things back from the brink. |
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| Author: | Finesse! [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NEGGING: How far should you go? |
Nice man, definitely held a good frame. Laughing it off shows confidence and that you are a man who doesn't care what others think, a beta man would apoligise straight away and lose all frame and attraction. I've used some harsh negs in the past and some have been uncalibrated, if you're not 100% confident and believe in what you are going to say then don't. Calibration is crucial with negs. Some of the things the RSD guys use are so harsh and crude but they get away with it because they are calibrated and have a sense of fun and messing around |
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| Author: | .Sage. [ Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NEGGING: How far should you go? |
"Being mean" and "Negging" are not the same thing. "Teasing" and "Negging" are not the same thing. A neg(Or Negative compliment) is meant to DLV a target by stating dis-interest in the target. EX: You blink alot. That's cute, your nose wiggles when you laugh. Does she have an off button?(Shotgun) This does not mean insulting her. You would feel bad too if you were insulted. You're simply supposed to show her that you aren't affected by her looks (Because naturally, you've met sooooooo many OTHER pretty girls) and your intentions are not to blatantly hit on her, but to have an interesting conversation and maybe even an emotional connection. This lowers the bitch shield and can make pick up way easier when a neg is used correctly. |
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| Author: | numbersgame [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NEGGING: How far should you go? |
over doing it is a big sticking point for me at the moment neg-just-plain-rude-girls-keep-getting- ... 58355.html iv found softer, less personal, more generic negs are doing the job perfectly for me. |
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| Author: | Havoc2012 [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NEGGING: How far should you go? |
Had a bit of a negging problem myself, going overboard and all, and I got good response from the community. Basically most of us have been following mainly the Mystery Method. However Mystery is a natural neg artist and calibrates perfectly and isn't afraid of coming across as an asshole rather than a Beta male, AFC etc (by own admission), hence his use of negs makes it easy to go over the top unless you are damn good at them. Majikamethod pointed out that negs should only be used really when the girl gives you an IOD. If she is giving you IOIs, maybe consider a playful tease. remember, a neg is just a judgement call and you aren't even looking for her reply, whereas a tease is playful and you are engaged with her. |
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| Author: | rudytuesdays [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NEGGING: How far should you go? |
There definitely is a line to cross, but that's like calling a fat girl fat, or an age joke to girl past her prime Your age line is one I use on girls less than 25, and it usually gets a girl fake offended(her test to see if you back down) but never apologize Most will come around like yours did, and alot will tell others what you said Sometimes this puts social pressure on you to apologize but keep confident body language I think "going as far" as you did is what made this work and made you STAND OUT Trust me, if ya'll become friends or if you ever run into her again, she WILL remember it and importantly she will remember YOU |
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