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Author:  Incubus69 [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Using C&F!
Using Cocky and funny is a really good to make someone comfortable and attracted to you. TRUST+COMFORT=ATTRACTION. Here are some of the ways you can be C&F:

GIRL: Man, it sucks it's raining!
YOU: WHy? Are you gonna melt? Oh, yeah I forgot your a witch!!

this should get a girl to laugh.

YOU: [Make sure she's walking in front of you being rude.]
YOU: Uh...excuse me! But you're in my way! I guess your too blind to see that!

This creates a SNIPER NEG but also using C&F.

YOU: Hey, guess what? I have something really to tell what happened to me last night at the club?
HER: What?
YOU: ...I forgot! Damn it!

This is great and it's using C&F! She'll have three ways of responding.
a) She can laugh
b) She can look at you diguist
c) She can walk away.

You have nothing to loose! Another one that just popped in my head that I use at my job is:

ME: [Going up to my TARGET that works at Walmart] What time you going on break?
HER: I don't know...when ever they tell me too.
ME: [Look at her wtih disgust] When ever they tell you to?! What are you a rug mat? [SMile]
HER: No, I just do what they say! I don't wanna get in trouble.

This is a oppunitity to COLD-READ her.

YOU: So, you're passive. Is that what you're saying?
HER: Yeah...
YOU: Hmmm...I thought so! [Laugh]

She'll laugh and be embarrassed but will try to qualify herself to you.

Is this helpful? GOod luck and have fun!
Author:  Johnny rage [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:17 pm ]
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this is a good post stealth i love using c&f in my game i usually don't use sniper negs but after reading this i think i will incorporate them

do you use swinggcat because by the sound of it your style is VERY similar to mine. you used good examples of swinggcat cold reading and a bit of push pull on the

YOU: Hey, guess what? I have something really to tell what happened to me last night at the club?
HER: What?
YOU: ...I forgot! Damn it!

only thing i would advise you on is use c&f frames

example : on a two set

ME: OMG you have such an evil smile you can be my partner in crime (high 5 and hold on to hand)....flex .....oh well your too weak to be my partner
ME to obstacle: flex .... you are strong i like you you can be my body guard
TARGET: what about me?
ME: can you cook?
Target: ye
ME:ok we're married

from there you can go into many different improve cock funny comments
Author:  Kontrol [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:22 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
example : on a two set

ME: OMG you have such an evil smile you can be my partner in crime (high 5 and hold on to hand)....flex .....oh well your too weak to be my partner
ME to obstacle: flex .... you are strong i like you you can be my body guard
TARGET: what about me?
ME: can you cook?
Target: ye
ME:ok we're married

from there you can go into many different improve cock funny comments
thats sweet! its got alot of weight, a backhanded compliment, dhv, kino, disarm obsticle, and fantasy. I would add escalating kino by giving her a one handed hug as you say "ok we're married".
Author:  Incubus69 [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:44 am ]
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I've used alot of C&F today when I was in Chicago for a seminar. My old counselor was being a total PUSSY (Push over) asking for directions to get to a certain place and they gave him the run around because they know they can get away with it. Then I stepped in the scene and used C&F to get them to give the right directions. It was kinda like a ping-pong match really going from one place to another.

So with this one girl that was behind a service desk I told her,
ME: "Are you sure this is the right directions?"
HER: Yes, I'm sure!
ME: If not then we're coming back!
HER: [Laughs] no, I gave you guys the right directions!
ME: Have a good day!

I was busting her for fun and basically making her day alot better. She had a Bitch SHield but I blasted through with the C&F technique.

Another good examples I've came up with it.

ME: "Oh! Can I have that?"
HER: Sure, knock yourself out!
ME: Nevermind, I don't know what dieses you got! [Smile]

also:

ME: You look like a beautiful wife someday!
HER: What?
ME: Yeah, I'm serious! We can run away and get married in Las Vegas!
HER: Why?
ME: That's a stupid question. You're the one that suggest us to get married-or no?
HER: Ummm...no.
ME: Wait! What's your name you said?
HER: I didn't say my name!
ME: How rude! You're suppost to say your name to someone you've just met!
HER: [Laughs]
ME: Don't tell me your name is Cinderalla?
HER: [Laughs] No my name is...
ME: Oh--for a minute I thought you were the Wicked Witch of the West!
HER: [Laughs] No, I'm not!
ME: Are you sure? You have a long pointy nose! [NEG]
HER: [Laughs] I'm sure.
ME: You know what we should do?
HER: What?
ME: I don't know, you tell me what we should do?
HER: I dunno!
ME: Stop being indecisive woman! Let's hang out sometime! That's what we should do!
HER: [Laughs] I dunno...I have a boyfriend!
ME: I'm sorry what? I have a dog?! Well bring your dog with!
HER: [Laughs] Sure, I'll bring my dog!
ME: Does he like strangers?
HER: He's not really fond of strangers.
ME: Well, I'm not a stranger anymore! My name is--
HER: [Laughs] Nice to meet you!
ME: You know it's really great knowing you Dorthy! You know you should bring toto with so we can go to Wizard Of Oz someday!
HER: [Laughs] Sure, why not!
ME: Gimme your number and we'll hang out!
HER: [Laughs] Sure, but if toto fiinds out he'll be mad!
ME: We'll don't tell him you idiot! Just keep it our little secret!
HER: Okay! It'll be our little secret! My number is....

Here I demostrated how difficult it can be to get a number even if she has a boyfriend. But I just PLOWED over it and still got it! Using C&F will lessen you getting rejected and thus make her feel that you're fun and exciting guy! She'll gravitate towards you like a magnet! Good luck and happy hunting! Peace!
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