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Author:  Jacklife [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:23 am ]
Post subject:  Be caught when I am running a routine
What if when I am running a routine to a set, and suddenly someone in the set says to me, "Haha, you read the book "The mystery method" and now you are trying to pick up a girl in our group, right?" How can I reply?
Author:  NikAFC [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Be caught when I am running a routine
Let it happen and when it happen post in this thread I'll give u a response ;)
Author:  Jacklife [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Be caught when I am running a routine
I think it is better to be prepared so I can avoid embarrassment on the spot.
Author:  puaninja [ Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:50 pm ]
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It's not like the girl has to be well read to realize you are hitting on her or her friends. What if she is just says "Are you trying to pick us up?" She wouldn't even need to mention mystery method.

But if she does call you out and actually references some pick up book (which is HIGHLY unlikely), then you are obviously busted. So just treat it like a shit test. Respond with confidence and humor. Tell her you don't know what she is talking about (with a guilty smirk on your face). Tell her this is the first time you've ever hit on a woman and you were just released from a catholic monastery last week. If she keeps pushing it, be like "Look HB, don't make me neg you. I told you, I have never opened a set in my life nor read the Mystery Method. Now stop trying to DLV me and ruin my routine!"
Author:  Skyline3500 [ Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:10 pm ]
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I really like ninjas advice. If it ever happened that she actually did read the MM ( I Havent), you could say what he suggested - it makes inside jokes to develop a connection and removes any awkwardness about her knowing your running a routine.
Author:  Blind_Oh!_bed_ience [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:17 am ]
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its happened to me once. i was running a popular routine ( who lies more..)in another country in a foreign language that im not fluent. Only one girl knew about it in the set and called me out and told me she read the book too. i said something like "i actually wrote that book". I felt embarassed , but it was short lived. maybe its because i thought she thought i was just trying to learn the language or something. she was actually kind of intrigued by it though.

she was a popular girl at the party and later introduced me to other girls that night.


then it happend again back home in Aus.
i was like "hey ladies do i look like a drug dealer?" they were like " thats a dumb pick up line ha ha" and walked off.
i kept cool cause i rolled up with a hottie that night anyway. Later i saw one of the girls on the dance floor and went up to her "have I already asked you if i look like a drug dealer yet?" i got a mutual laugh out of her. We didn't hit it off, but i felt like i redeemed myself.

if your frame is tight nothing brings you down
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:42 pm ]
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If that girl said she read the book too (in response to "Who lies more?") I'd just tell her I think she's lying.
Author:  NikAFC [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:57 pm ]
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I think it is better to be prepared so I can avoid embarrassment on the spot.
I don't care what you think. Are you here to take advice or to reject it? Decide for yourself :roll:
Author:  White Lion [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:11 am ]
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I have been caught running a 'routine'. It was a humorous story that I experienced, and I told my buddy, and it came up at a party.

I got a reaction of, "We already heard this one." And I received a subsequent eye roll.

How did I handle it? Like a test. Now, I do not, under any circumstance, run material I at the very least did not modify to fit my personality, but it I did, I would reply the same way.

To pass this TEST, just ignore, patronize her for speaking up or mock her, and do a back turn.

If you run scripted "Who lies more" out of the game, make it your own. If I were to run it, or an opinion opener, I would strip it down like I were building a DHV story, the core of the opener and re build it to fit my speaking style.

So, who lies more would go like:

"HEY GUYS. My ex-girlfriend turned bisexual after we broke up. She said that her girlfriend never lies to her like I did. I know I am an a-hole but come on, do girls really lie less than guys?"

They say some stuff.

I cut them off after a sentence, which is key, never cut them off mid sentence so they will not be offended, this is basic social calibration.

"No way, YOU actually agree/disagree with her."

If they agree I tease them for being feminist. If they disagree I say they must be a-holes as well. If I get a funny look of 'why is he speaking to us' then I still would say, "NO WAY, you don't know what a lie is? I cant speak to you guys, you are too nice for me."

If she THINKS she heard it, it does not matter, it is different. I own it.

Any material you get should be something you want to say and enjoy doing so. So man, just strip down any material to the structure and run with the concept of it. You cant get caught doing that.
Author:  puaninja [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:31 pm ]
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They shouldn't say "We already heard that one?" What if I was like "Who are you voting for, Romney or Obama?" Are they going to tell you they already heard that one?

If they say they already heard that, I'll be like "Great. So what is your answer then?"

What if she has beautifual blue eyes and I tell her she has beautiful eyes? Is she going to tell me she already heard that one too?
Author:  White Lion [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:37 am ]
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They shouldn't say "We already heard that one?" What if I was like "Who are you voting for, Romney or Obama?" Are they going to tell you they already heard that one?

If they say they already heard that, I'll be like "Great. So what is your answer then?"

What if she has beautifual blue eyes and I tell her she has beautiful eyes? Is she going to tell me she already heard that one too?
Ninja (I hope you dont mind me calling you that), I think its actually better once you have some experience if a girl HAS heard it before.

If I were in a tricky situation, I have considered using something canned to get a negative response. Either something popularized (Who lies more) or mimic another guys opener. I would do that to riff off of it if they got the joke, or to bust on them for being rude for not answering my question.

Thoughts? Handling a rough landing always shows great things about your personality so I think this may be a solid idea.
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:54 am ]
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Yeah basically as long as you don't get weird or get thrown off by her calling you out, you should be fine for the most part. Whatever your response is, as long as you just take it in stride and laugh it off, you're good.

@Jacklife, NikAFC is right about the fact that thinking about potential problems that have never happened to you is not worth your time. I know how it is when you want to know every answer for every possible situation, but trust me when I tell you its only worth your while to think about problems in your game that you actually have. Its the only way to get good. Don't make sticking points for yourself that you don't need to.

I personally have never had girls call me out for reading "The Game" or "The Mystery Method" but I have 2 friends who have had it happen once (let me stress that: ONE time to each of them, out of the thousands of girls that these guys have approached. And who cares about ONE set?)
Author:  puaninja [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:15 pm ]
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Right. It's very rare to be called out for using scripted lines. And if it happens, boo hoo, that's just one set. Move on and don't worry about it.

What is much more common is being called out simply for trying pick up a girl. Whether you go indirect or direct, you telegraph interest and it becomes clear that you approached the set out of the blue because you are trying to pick them up. Sometimes they will call you out on that. This is particularly common in daygame because women are not expecting to be picked up.

As far as I know, there is really no way to cover this up once she calls you out on it. It helps if you have a wing or a good cover story for being there, but I'm wondering what some good responses to that call out would be?
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Be caught when I am running a routine
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Right. It's very rare to be called out for using scripted lines. And if it happens, boo hoo, that's just one set. Move on and don't worry about it.

What is much more common is being called out simply for trying pick up a girl. Whether you go indirect or direct, you telegraph interest and it becomes clear that you approached the set out of the blue because you are trying to pick them up. Sometimes they will call you out on that. This is particularly common in daygame because women are not expecting to be picked up.

As far as I know, there is really no way to cover this up once she calls you out on it. It helps if you have a wing or a good cover story for being there, but I'm wondering what some good responses to that call out would be?

This is all true, but I don't mind if a girl calls me out for trying to pick her up, because I AM trying to pick her up. In order to get in her pants I need to demonstrate sexual interest in her, so she should know at some point that I am trying to pick her up. There's nothing wrong with that.

Actually most of the time, you should get it out on the table that you are trying to pick her up before she even has a chance to call you out for it.
Author:  detox75 [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:49 am ]
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It always appalls me how many new guys have no creativity and repeat verbatim what Mystery says. Its easy enough to come up with your own material which accomplishes the exact same thing if you pay attention to the form and intent rather than just the exact content. Some of you guys give PUA a bad name with your lazy hijinx.
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