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| Author: | Jacklife [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | the psychological reasons behind routines |
The first thing after opening is to build attraction(make the target be attracted to you), right? I want to know what is the definition of attraction here and what is the difference between attraction and interest, for instance, a girl is attracted to me and a girl is interested to me? My understanding is that we run routines like Negs, push & pull, qualifying a girl to build attraction(or to make a girl attracted to us) and we use DHV(demonstration of high values) to make a girl interested in us, right? But I don't know the psychological reasons which Negs, push & pull, qualifying a girl can make a girl attracted to us. Could you explain? Once the attraction is built, we need to build comfort. But why do we need to build comfort? What's the difference between comfort and rapport? |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the psychological reasons behind routines |
What is the difference between comfort and rapport? Take a police officer as an example. Say you are in a bad part of town. You are standing on the street corner and there is a cop standing close by. You now feel comfortable because the cop is giving you a sense of security. When he leaves, then you feel nervous and insecure because nobody is there to protect you anymore. That is comfort. Rapport would be actually talking to the cop and finding out that you both went to the same highschool or something. That's rapport. Interest is when someone is giving you attention. I met this really interesting old woman at a coffee shop once and talked to her for hours. I obviously wasn't even remotely attracted to her though. There are alot of interesting people and things in this world, but it doesn't mean you are attracted to them. Attraction is when idle interest turns into romantic interest. It doesn't necessarily have to be sexual, but that is usually the underlying force behind it--sexual intrigue. Also, attraction building should come AFTER comfort and rapport. Comfort and rapport allow the girl to lower her defenses. She'll never gain interest in you if her defenses are up and she thinks you are boring and creepy. Once you get past that, you then have to show her traits that women find desireable. Being aloof and unattached to outcome is a desireable quality. So you have to use negs and push/pull to reveal that quality about yourself. |
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| Author: | Crypto [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the psychological reasons behind routines |
Great post Ninja...I think often times people tend to miss one or more of the steps during personal interactions and then wonder how it is that they failed. Routines are important and help aspiring PUAs gain some confidence however false. The problem is that they become almost robotic in their delivery and thus transparent, not to mention they have no depth beyond the surface. Peace... |
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| Author: | Jacklife [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the psychological reasons behind routines |
Why I'm told that rapport building should come after attraction building, otherwise you will enter friend zone? |
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| Author: | Crypto [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the psychological reasons behind routines |
Other than physical attraction, a girl typically will not allow herself to feel attraction for someone they do not know. Building a little rapport/comfort allows her to bring down her walls. The Neg(s) tell her psychological brain that you are not interested in her which has two affects. First it tells her that you are safe to talk to because you’re not hitting on her, and second it triggers the “Why is this guy not interested in me, what makes him special?” thoughts in her head. Both of these things trigger emotional reactions within her that she will not understand on the exterior. She will begin to question herself, which in turn compounds the attraction triggers! When applied properly, she will be all wet and sticky before you even get her number. You have about 24 hours before your “shock and awe” wears off which is why most suggest that you contact her again within the 1st 24 hours after meeting. Peace... |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the psychological reasons behind routines |
When I look back at all my failed sets and I can usually pinpoint what I missed and where I went wrong. The main reason is that I didn't spend enough time in the set which caused me to skip a phase, or not give the phase enough emphasis. Generally its attraction that I mess up on, and its because I sprint to the finish after I build rapport and go straight for the number close. I guess that's my sticking point. The sets I've had success with were ones I spent more time with and k-closed before I number closed. Because I was already thru comfort, rapport, and attraction, and I was heading into seduction. That's why I put emphasis on calibrating now, so I can guage where I'm at in the set and find out what I need to do next. When you don't calibrate and if you don't understand the various phases of a routine, it's kind of like fumbling through the darkness with your dick in your hand and hoping it finds its way into a wetspot. It may work sometimes, but most of the time you end up alone in the dark with your dick in your hand. |
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| Author: | Blind_Oh!_bed_ience [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the psychological reasons behind routines |
its a good way to break the awkward silence- to keep the ball rolling. I have had the experience when i go into a routine and it looks like im forcing it out for that specific reason ( gets even more awkward). awkward silence to me is when i fell like im completely disconnected from her very abruptly, sometimes there is silence but someting is still binding me and her together, i wouldnt do a routine in that sitcho |
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