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| Author: | YouWish99 [ Sat May 05, 2012 2:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Are DHV Stories DEAD? |
Conventional wisdom suggests that somewhere in a set you are going to put your best traits on display covertly with a dhv story. However, is this really what you want to do? Is it the best way to go about getting her? Or are you just working against yourself? Give me a minute to explain. Social proof. We know social proof is on a sliding scale. It can be positive or it can be negative and one of the determining factors is momentum. So, why do we want go from a solid opening and mutual attraction only to bring things to a grinding halt with a long story? Why would you want to make things harder on yourself? As time creeps on anticipation builds. More and more your audience becomes enraptured. BUT as the anticipation builds so does the need for that big payoff at the end. Mess up anywhere in between and you run the risk of boring her. Have an ending that doesn’t live up to expectations and you’ve lost her. Come across as braggart and you never had her. So, while you prattle on and on with your “amazing” dhv story I’m looking for her emerging boredom. One crack and it is time to reopen: “Can you believe this guy?” No? Me neither. “Come on, let’s get out of here.” BOOM. Now, how’s your social proof doing when two of your captivated audience walks off in the middle of that story? Stealth AMOGing? Perhaps it’s time to rethink the dhv story…or not. |
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| Author: | killermunkyz [ Sat May 05, 2012 2:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are DHV Stories DEAD? |
Quote: Conventional wisdom suggests that somewhere in a set you are going to put your best traits on display covertly with a dhv story. However, is this really what you want to do? Is it the best way to go about getting her? Or are you just working against yourself?
Yeah, I agree. I don't even really DHV. I think it's too easy to look like you're bragging, and long stories aren't any good because everyone these days has ADHD, especially the younger girls in the 18-25 age group (the one I work on the most). Give me a minute to explain. Social proof. We know social proof is on a sliding scale. It can be positive or it can be negative and one of the determining factors is momentum. So, why do we want go from a solid opening and mutual attraction only to bring things to a grinding halt with a long story? Why would you want to make things harder on yourself? As time creeps on anticipation builds. More and more your audience becomes enraptured. BUT as the anticipation builds so does the need for that big payoff at the end. Mess up anywhere in between and you run the risk of boring her. Have an ending that doesn’t live up to expectations and you’ve lost her. Come across as braggart and you never had her. So, while you prattle on and on with your “amazing” dhv story I’m looking for her emerging boredom. One crack and it is time to reopen: “Can you believe this guy?” No? Me neither. “Come on, let’s get out of here.” BOOM. Now, how’s your social proof doing when two of your captivated audience walks off in the middle of that story? Stealth AMOGing? Perhaps it’s time to rethink the dhv story…or not. I try to escalate as quickly as possible. My whole goal is to get in and get out with a number close of some kind if not a SNL. If I'm looking for a SNL I try to leave the place with her as quick as I can. Long stories don't help with that. I do DHVs (if you can call them that) with body language, eye language, tone of voice, and cocky/funny teasing. Occasionally I'll throw a neg in there if she has a huge bitch shield up but it's almost always a one liner kind of thing and I only use it on 9s and 10s. |
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| Author: | Crossfired [ Sat May 05, 2012 7:36 am ] |
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I would not call them "dead." I would call them less used, or less necessary. I keep to one DHV in a set, just for entertainment purposes... But no more. I agree that it really depends on the age group. I have the same target age range as the above post, which is why I do only one. I believe older women (25+, nobody get butt hurt) generally like them better because they value experiences more, as well as characteristics you can create for yourself in DHV stories. Everyone younger just has a short attention span. As long as one person still uses DHV stories, I won't consider them dead. |
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| Author: | finibangin [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are DHV Stories DEAD? |
I would call you a great teacher and a shitty wing lmao! I love it. |
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| Author: | HSP [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are DHV Stories DEAD? |
DHV's are useful if they're indirect. Bragging about yourself will not get you very far and besides we're supposed to be having the women talk about themselves while we listen/pretend like we're listening (that ADD thing works both ways). Personally i would not use the stories unless they're interesting and have hints at how cool you are. |
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| Author: | TheFury [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are DHV Stories DEAD? |
I disagree. I think these stories are alive and well and a huge component of attracting women. You have to calibrate though, as you always have to do. If you see the story is losing them, end it and go to something else. Quote: Conventional wisdom suggests that somewhere in a set you are going to put your best traits on display covertly with a dhv story. However, is this really what you want to do? Is it the best way to go about getting her? Or are you just working against yourself?
Give me a minute to explain. Social proof. We know social proof is on a sliding scale. It can be positive or it can be negative and one of the determining factors is momentum. So, why do we want go from a solid opening and mutual attraction only to bring things to a grinding halt with a long story? Why would you want to make things harder on yourself? As time creeps on anticipation builds. More and more your audience becomes enraptured. BUT as the anticipation builds so does the need for that big payoff at the end. Mess up anywhere in between and you run the risk of boring her. Have an ending that doesn’t live up to expectations and you’ve lost her. Come across as braggart and you never had her. So, while you prattle on and on with your “amazing” dhv story I’m looking for her emerging boredom. One crack and it is time to reopen: “Can you believe this guy?” No? Me neither. “Come on, let’s get out of here.” BOOM. Now, how’s your social proof doing when two of your captivated audience walks off in the middle of that story? Stealth AMOGing? Perhaps it’s time to rethink the dhv story…or not. |
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| Author: | afcAL [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are DHV Stories DEAD? |
DHV stories do not have to be you being flown on a personal jet to this one-in-a-lifetime party. That's bragging. The "value" is the key. If though your stories you convey that you have high motivation, amazing energy, high moral standards and ambition, do you HONESTLY believe a woman would think "Ok, I had enough of this looser! TAXI!!!" After all, the goal of your story is to capture and lead her imagination, while subtly revealing your values through your adventures. That's the difference between "storytelling" and "bragging". Al |
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