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Author:  Mazzini [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:20 am ]
Post subject:  How to avoid the friend zone
Ive met a girl I like a few times she likes me as a friend but with a bit of flirting, im likley to see her soon but I only see her when shes with friends oh and shes seeing a guy but they don't seem to care about each other. I havnt added her on fb (yet) or got her phone number im not sure what to do next
Author:  Vincentvega [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Don't wait too long
The most common reason why guys end up in the friend zone, is because of the fact that they waited too long to make a move. Go through this forum, look for some DHV-stories, push-pull techniques, negs, kino escalation,... And make that move!
You also will need some bf-destroyers too. Don't pick a random destroyer, choose a good and appropriate one. She might not be together with the guy, but I think it's best you rule him out.

I think it's best to wait a while before adding her on fb. I never add girls on fb, but sometimes when I like them and they haven't add me yet, I just send them a short, funny message about something from last night (something awkward that happened, something funny you saw or talked about... can be anything) and usually they add you immediately.
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
best way for you to avoid the friend zone, is have sex with her

invite her out to be alone with you,

this results in either a yes, (in this case you get her number and hang out with her)

or an excuse/no, (in this case you don't have compliance from her, if you notice a pattern of excuses/no's more then 3 in a row, it is a good indication she is not interested/a waste of time),

now once she is alone, just try to make out with her, that should be your first goal, get close to her so you are touching, chill out for a bit, put your arm around her

if she allows you to be close to her and she is comfortable with that, proceed to try to make out with her, if you have never done this before, just look up the mystery method kiss close routine (basically just say, ''would you like to kiss me?'')

then take it from there, it is either a yes, or an excuse/no, either way, just like the other example, if you notice a pattern of excuses/no's consider that she is not interested/a waste of time

if she is not interested, find other girls that are interested and drop contact with that girl and stop pursueing her, continue working on your process and refineing it keeping the girls that are actually interested, after you are seeing a large amount of success and have a bunch of girls sleeping with you, you will most likely be way more comfortable with this whole process and you can attempt to try again on this girl you are friend zoned with and since the process has been refined you can tell for sure, if it is dis-interest, or just your previous lack of confidence

and if she brings up her boyfriend, just take responsibility for it and continue,
if she says, but I have a boyfriend, there are a million things you could say, but it is just as easy to just say

''ok''
or
''i know''

and continue

if she has big huge objections to this, just express you will keep it a secret, and it isn't a big deal

and absolutely do not let her friends hear about this, or do any of this in front of her friends, or make them aware, get her away from her friends to try to progress this, if she has a bf, her friends will almost certainly do nothing but cock block

GOOD LUCK
Author:  Chercheur [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
Sensible responses from the boys mate.

One point I would not so much add as reinforce....Time is important.

The longer you prevaricate the slimmer your chance. Act soonest and bring the thing to a conclusion then you are either A) In or B) moving on from a non starter.
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