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| Author: | xvxv3ndetta [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I've gone as far as openers.... |
I've gone as far as openrs already. Now.. whats next? I know ihave to build comfort and attraction, but how am I going to do that? The problem is, I do the opener, but that's pretty much the only conversation thats going on. Once they answer it, I don't know what to do. Help? I've gone as far as comfort, and i'm not even sure if I've reached attraction. Help? |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:57 pm ] |
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Hey man, no problem. You're opening that's the hard part. You're getting out there and getting over AA and that's no small accomplishment! So you are done with opening, now what you ask. As you know you need to continue with the Attraction phase. There are 3 steps to the Attraction Phase as per the Mystery Method. A1 - The Opening, which you've done A2- Female to Male Interest A3- Male to Female Interest A2- Okay what you are doing here is negging your target. For a good list of negs search the forum for "Ultimate Neg Collection" there are about 60 of them if you don't know of any off hand. You neg your target while befriending your obstacles. You are running DHV stories and Threads keeping your obstacles interest and attention. You are lightly negging her and ignoring her, while not giving any IOIs or Indicators of Interest. I posted a big list of these not long ago if you need them I can send them or you can do a search for "IOI." As she starts to give you IOIs (3) to be exact you can start to slowly return them. Which moves you to A3. Then you show IOIs back to your target to show you are interested, stop negging her so much. Then, you move into Comfort. You start building rapport with her. I usually move my target to another location away from the obstacles in the club. I'll say, "I've kind of been ignoring your friend over here, mind if I borrow her for a second." Take her hand, tell her you're going to show her something really cool, and move her to an area where you too can talk. GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN! |
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| Author: | xvxv3ndetta [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:57 pm ] |
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Wow, jsmooth your friggin awesome! You've really helped me out man. I haven't really opened to many people, but I am capable. I'm more moved to do it in places aside school, mainly because I feel I can demonstrate higher value better. I'll comment here if I need anything. All in all, thank you!! |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:06 pm ] |
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You're welcome man, now get out there and have some fun! |
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| Author: | Kurent [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:49 pm ] |
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After you open, its easy. You just chat. The beauty of using canned openers (which is what I suggest you use if you're a beginner) is that they come with routines. Here's how it should work: PUA: Canned opener, time constraint. HB: Answer. PUA: Continue routine with a personal story, leave some threads open. and there you have it, a conversation. If the girl stops paying attention, toss a neg her way. Want a better example? PUA: Hey guys, my friends and I were just having a discussion and we need a quick female opinion (or quick third opinion). Do you think magic spells work? HB: Yes/no. (more if you're lucky) PUA: Ah, 'cause my friend, his little sister is wicken (the neo-pagans, if you don't know what it is, google it), and she believes in magic spells. In fact, she's my wicken advisor. There was this one time, I was at a club with a buddy, and he was drinking a lot, and ended up going home with some crazy gothic and really ugly girl, you know the type... go on from there. There are a couple of things about opinion openers that you have to remember: 1. You have to actually care about the question you're asking. Not so much the answer, but the question. If you're asking a girl if she think you should paint your nails black, you should honestly be considering painting your nails black! 2. Always have a personal story (even if its made up), or routine to back up your opener. Just saying "thanks, bye" after you ask your question is not a good way to leave the girl. She wants to know why you asked (even if she won't say it), so tell her. 3. An opener is just a shoehorn into conversation. You should always have more to say, but if the girl starts to talk a bit, and engage you in conversation- talk with her! Don't let her lead the conversation, but if she obviously wants to change the subject, or seems to have something important to say, let her talk! 4. The most important part of opening is confidence. If you approach and come across as doing something out of the ordinary, she will pick up on it, and blow you out; however, if you approach as confident, knowing that what you're doing is totally normal and not out of the ordinary, she'll follow you and react like that. |
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