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Author:  dlightmen [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  This is just a little beyond where I'm at in pua.....

After first date chick initiates hug. What would you do here? This has happened to me twice in the last two weeks.


Would you call this an ioi, or iod? Half of me wants to think ioi cuz she initiated contact... But I'm kinda also thinking iod, from other things that mat have happened during the night.. Both times it has happened as I was leaving for the night...

I'm not a total noob with women. Just have been dating a few that kinda leave me acting afc. Sometimes I just get kinda intimidated, dating decent looking women I don't know to well, and am just a little out of my comfort zone at times....


What would you do when this happens? Should I try to go for the kiss close here??? Advice please?!?


Edit: both times the chick stopped texting me the day after, too.. I just never texted them back cuz I didn't wanna come off like I was chasing after them... So I'm getting kinda confused here...

Author:  pleasureseeker [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:24 pm ]
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you should of kissed her before the end of the night. she shouldn't have a chance to give you a hug oO.... it doesn't really matter whether it's an IOI or IOD if you don't kiss she's going to think you don't like her. These girls could of stopped texting back because they need to feel comforted, they think you don't like them so they're freezing you out.... but if you get clingy and try to win them back you'll turn them off probably, so don't go texting them like crazy.... next time your on a date initiate a kiss mid date, when she's talking.... just stare her in the eyes smile and as soon as she stops talking kiss her. OR if your talking stop mid sentance and kiss her

Author:  Keno512 [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:53 pm ]
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I try to stay pretty damn open and "friendly" so that way before a second is even a thought, we have already hugged. If 'm on a second, I will make sure to kiss close and I always initiate the kino as quickly as possible. that doesn't mean I am grabby and what not, I just get them used to contact.

Author:  Keno512 [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:54 pm ]
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I try to stay pretty damn open and "friendly" so that way before a second is even a thought, we have already hugged. If 'm on a second, I will make sure to kiss close and I always initiate the kino as quickly as possible. that doesn't mean I am grabby and what not, I just get them used to contact.

Author:  pleasureseeker [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:16 pm ]
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[quote="Keno512"]I try to stay pretty damn open and "friendly" so that way before a second is even a thought, we have already hugged. If 'm on a second, I will make sure to kiss close and I always initiate the kino as quickly as possible. that doesn't mean I am grabby and what not, I just get them used to contact.[/quote]

what I don't understand what you said?? if your kissing during the date/hang out w/e, and she doesn't turn her cheek then the hug at the end of the night is an IOI, and i'd kiss her again.

Author:  dlightmen [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:17 am ]
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Hey! Thanks guys! I really, really appreciate all the good help I get here! These forums are totally effin awesome!

I just now lined up a day2 for the day after tomorrow, and will give these suggestions a go...

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