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| Author: | Untouchable3 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:57 am ] |
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Sup guys.. So I've known this girl (HB9) from before a little bit. Yesterday I got really drunk and we almost ended up together at the party. Was tryin to k-close but she was teasing all the time, our lips touched just once for a little while and I ended up empty handed. She also said; Im not one of your one-night stand girls. (Cause of my reputation and she saw me dancin with couple of different girls). We also talked briefly about a drink for next week but Im not really sure, was pretty wasted. Today texts: Me:Hey mamacita=), how u doin.. hungover? Do u have any time on monday afternoon so we meet up for a drink:) HB: aaand you are? Me: The coolest guy from the party=). HB: Wau so confident. Me: Come on, where is your sense for humor.. (name).=) HB: So much about the coolest guy :/ haahah. Well hello there, im fine, not hungovered at all. You?? I gotta think a little about the drink though;). Me: I woke up in pain today, little better now. Well you think about it and when you pick up the courage let me know=) HB:Haaha ok deal. Be good=). So should I wait untill she writes? Dont really wanna loose one so I was thinking to send her a text on monday but I dont really know what kind of text should I send. Any advice? I have time until tuesday because later Im going to Amsterdam, the things will cool off and she'll be gone. Help a brother out |
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| Author: | MarqueeMan92 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:32 am ] |
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the thing is, with your last text Well you think about it and when you pick up the courage let me know=) you gave her the power. what i mean is that she is the one with the decision. so your left waiting. you could have said "im going to this place (because your already going regardless if shes there or not, but she doesent know that, so you dont really care if she doesent come.) on (watever day) and maybe i can catch up with you there." if she says yes then you head to that place and meet her, if she says no, then you dont have to go. the point is she isnt left in a position of power to decide the situation. |
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| Author: | mickeyjackson21 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:44 am ] |
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I think from the texts you sent to the hb9 you portrayed yourself to her as being too confident, obnoxious, and sleazy (e.g. "The coolest guy from the party=)"). you were practically begging the chick to get a drink with you i.e. "Do u have any time on monday afternoon so we meet up for a drink?" and "Well you think about it and when you pick up the courage let me know=)". Why does it have to be her decision to go out with you? you've basically given her the power over you which is a bad thing when doing game. If she really liked you she wouldnt need to think about it so hard whether to go out with you or not. You also DLVed yourself saying that you were in pain from the night before, it's really bad to show a chick that you were drunk. it's fine if the girl is but the guy should not and keeps complete control. bottom line: if i was the chick, i would think that you are a big player, a bad one and you're not worth my time. when being a pua you do not show to people that you are a player. I suggest you give up on the chick and perhaps change your game for future pick ups. here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you. enjoy. one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys. building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well. in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point. and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want. another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages. after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future. the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her. so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting. dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game. Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude |
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| Author: | Untouchable3 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:03 pm ] |
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Thanks for advice. @mickey: I dont know how I look desperate if I ask a girl out for a simple drink. I dont really do everything by the book, go with the flow is the way to go for me:). I get after I want, if she doesnt wanna go thats cool so I just replyied in a teasing way (when you pick up a courage). Also thanks for the advice man, appreciate it=). Kinda knew that stuff. For n-closing I like fuji method because you reduce flakes to a minimum. Thats kinda been a sticking point for me. He talks about it at under21convention. So you guys would just wait if she replies.. you wouldnt send a text? (If you would, what would you write) Ty. |
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| Author: | Untouchable3 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:44 pm ] |
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Updates.. So today is my birthday and here is her text: Heard you have birthday today.. haaaaappy happy b-day!:) I though about replying with something like.. Thanks (name):). When do I get my present? |
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