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Author:  March [ Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:10 am ]
Post subject:  My First Attempt
First night sarging:

Went out tonight by myself and opened three sets, all of them single sets. Used the Jealous Girlfriend opener all three times, and used the time constraint, "I've gotta go meet my friend here in a few minutes, and need to give him some advice..." I was kind of nervous about it not working too well, but in all three instances the girls seemed to enjoy it. I think my sticking point is probably moving out of the opener and into DHV. During the first set, an HB8.5 at a clothing store, after I opened it and she gave her opinion on the matter, I told her she had a C-shaped smile, and explained the difference between C's and U's, telling her my ex-girlfriend used to always point out instances of that when we were out (my attempt at a DHV). She was polite but seemed uninterested so I ejected. I was very nervous and shaking and mumbling quite a bit. That went away by the third set, though.

The second set went better. The girl, HB7, was more responsive to the opener and we ended up talking about it for a bit, and she mentioned that her and her boyfriend sometimes go through things like that. I never even attempted to DHV or even escalate the conversation beyond what the opener provided. Come to think of it, that set wasn't necessarily and better than the first. I was still nervous

The third one was great, though. An HB8 was sitting at a table in Barnes & Noble, and I passed her and opened perfectly, saying, "I need a female opinion on something," over my shoulder. Told her I could only stay a second as I sat down across from her. I opened, and she was very cool. I quickly started feeling very comfortable around her, and we ended up talking about it for probably ten minutes. I managed to work in an NLP attraction thing which I completely fucked up. She said it was interesting, though, nonetheless. After the first lull in the conversation, I ejected, thinking that I should stay true to my time constraint that I gave earlier (perhaps a mistake). I really should've number-closed, because I totally fucking could have, but I chickened out. I'm beating myself up over that.

Anyone else have problems getting past the opener? I think for me, it was just so surreal to be sort of in a conversation with a hot girl that I didn't know, and in the back of my mind, knowing that if I were to follow the steps properly, I could end up dating her. I don't know, man. I need to do this more because I'm still very awkward at it.

I should also mention that I'm absolutely scared shitless of opening sets with more that one person in them.

Thanks for listening.
Author:  xfman [ Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My First Attempt
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I really should've number-closed, because I totally fucking could have, but I chickened out.
One word: Confidence ; Believe in YOURSELF.

YOU CAN DO IT; BECAUSE YOUR THE MAN.
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Anyone else have problems getting past the opener? I think for me, it was just so surreal to be sort of in a conversation with a hot girl that I didn't know, and in the back of my mind, knowing that if I were to follow the steps properly.
How to move from Opener to next step?
Whens he starts talking about her own stories, etc... Cut her off and Say:

Oh! You don't Know what happend to me the other day.... I was ....(DHV STORY).

Then you can tell her (If you think your loosign it.), you were going to tell me something, cut her off again, push and pull.

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I could end up dating her. I don't know, man. I need to do this more because I'm still very awkward at it.
Practice, Go out and Sarge practice your new skills openers, etc....
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I should also mention that I'm absolutely scared shitless of opening sets with more that one person in them.
One set: One-sets are really ahrd because most of the time girls that are alone are waiting for someone (BF, friends, etc...) They also tend to be really confident (Not bad, With soem NEG's you DHV).

But you have to work on your skills approaching 2 - 5 sets , becuase they are the most common sets you will found, Don't be scared , Why? Just remember they are just hanging together to have fun, Like when you go out with your friends. Believe me they arent going to kill you :lol:
Author:  March [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:42 am ]
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Thanks for the advice; it made me feel a lot better.
Author:  grayson [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:29 am ]
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A big thing that you seemed to be missing were negs. You MUST neg the target, which can (in my opinion) be easier in a one set... depending on how and when you neg the girl it works in cocky/funny simultaneously.
Author:  March [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:28 am ]
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Grayson, I was thinking in the back of my mind that I should be negging, but it just didn't feel appropriate, especially in the last set. Perhaps I just entered into the set in the wrong frame.

The neg I had planned to use, though, was to tell the girl she had something on her face. Then of course she'd wipe her hand across it and I'd say, "Okay, I don't see it now," and continue on. Do you think that serves the purpose, or should I say something else?
Author:  xfman [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:26 am ]
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If you dont fill comfortable to throw a neg , don't do it, The oen that you say is really good :)


Go for it , ITs all about confidence :P
Author:  spiderman1 [ Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:49 am ]
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i like saying, "you have something on your face" then she tries to wipe it off and you can either say 'no its still there' and then you wipe it off for her OR you can just say, i was only kidding (laugh it up make her feel comfortable) then follow it up with, 'your so gullable'

use it, enjoy, also let me know how it works out lol
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