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Author:  thumper858 [ Tue May 10, 2011 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:  The next step after number closing...
You've run your game and pulled her number. Now what? A lot of people drop or practically hand the ball away at this point. Until you are walking the girl to the front door after you have done the deed, the game is still being played.

Some people ask, "After I get the number, how long should I wait to call/text her?" The answer is simple, you only call or text her when you are ready to set up the date. If you exchanged numbers and she texts/calls you first, you only answer or reply when you are ready to set up a date.

The purpose of getting the number is not to chat. She has her girlfriends for that. You should only have one thing on your mind when contacting her initially.

Dates should be setup during the week, preferably either Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. No one wants to do anything the first day of the week. People should already have plans Friday and Saturday. Sunday is the recovery day. So those 3 days are you best bet.

When you contact her, have a plan setup. Where you want to go. When you want to go. What time do you want to go. The key word here is YOU. You tell her what YOU want to do. It's usually best to have an activity date. Something where you aren't sitting around idle. This helps with conversation because the situation is always changing.

Girls aren't always available. Some will say they aren't available on the day you're asking them. If they don't offer up another day, time, any type of alternative, drop her! Simple as that. If she were interested, she'd offer up something instead. Don't be the one to offer up another alternative if she says she's not available. Your only reply to to that should be "OK" and wait it out. I've had girls contact me hours after my OK with an alternative. Again, if she doesn't, drop her. She's not interested.

Using all this information it could go something like this:

Me: Hey you! You find time to smile today?
HB: Hey :-) Yeah.. .blah blah.. wah wah wah..
Me: Nice! Let's get together and hangout. I'm thinking D&B on Wednesday for happy hour.
HB: I would like to, but I have blah blah blah...
Me: Ok
HB: I'm free on Thursday though
Me: Sounds good! See you on Thursday then
HB: Ok

There is nothing else that needs to be said once the date has been setup. You do not need to chat with her anymore. Keep the conversation short sweet and to the point. Saying or doing anything more than trying to setup the date will lower your chances of her accepting, or not flaking at the last minute. After the date has been set, you only contact her or respond to her the day of the date and the only reason for you doing this is to make sure the light is still green for the date.

Me: Hey you! Today was a little rough, so I'm looking forward to happy hour!
HB: Me too! I can't wait!

If she flakes and doesn't offer up an alternative. Drop her!

I hope this clears things up for some, or offers something else for others. Either way, I hope it helps someone out. I only post things that I have actually done and know to work for me.
Author:  Txacoli [ Wed May 11, 2011 10:29 pm ]
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This is good, I was always struggling with this stuff, offering alternative days etc. Good post man.
Author:  thumper858 [ Wed May 11, 2011 10:34 pm ]
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This is good, I was always struggling with this stuff, offering alternative days etc. Good post man.
Thanks... I remember reading one of your post when I first joined, but I can't really remember.. Were you looking to get tips for how to handle women, or become better with dating men?
Author:  Txacoli [ Thu May 12, 2011 9:12 am ]
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How to handle women. I came, as many do, cuz I had a oneitis problem :) Thank god that's gone.
Author:  myst3ri0us [ Sun May 15, 2011 12:02 am ]
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Thanks! I actually did most of that stuff but didn't let her offer alternatives. Next time...
Author:  thumper858 [ Sun May 15, 2011 12:21 am ]
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Thanks! I actually did most of that stuff but didn't let her offer alternatives. Next time...
Glad it helped... Let me ask though. What do you mean by "you didn't let her offer alternatives"? Did you offer them instead? Did you not stop at OK?
Author:  heart-break-kid [ Wed May 18, 2011 4:05 am ]
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Chit chatting...that's probably my issue lol. I'm a heavy texter, taking full advantage of unlimited plans. I can number close pretty easily. And set up dates on the spot, mostly the girls just ask me out straight up. So that's great. But I take it to heart sometimes when they don't text back. Not because they might not be interested, or they're too busy to text. I expect they'd text more often if they were interested. Guess it's a wrong expectation because not everyone's a texter or have unlimited plans haha.

Girls often seem very open and receptive to me in person. But after the number close, not so much. But you're right. Texting should be used like memos. Important stuff only.
Author:  freight train [ Wed May 18, 2011 5:50 am ]
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Thanks for clearing this up! I feel like teenage years could have benefited greatly from this one post! haha

I feel that the gaming and in the field stuff is greatly explained here and online else where on the internet, because that stuff has seemed much easier since I took to sarging. However, little stuff like this, that i'd call indirect gaming, is harder to find!
Author:  silverito [ Wed May 18, 2011 6:58 pm ]
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Thanks! I actually did most of that stuff but didn't let her offer alternatives. Next time...
Glad it helped... Let me ask though. What do you mean by "you didn't let her offer alternatives"? Did you offer them instead? Did you not stop at OK?
same question, how does that look ? I mean she can always offer alternative, how does one not let her offer them? :D
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Wed May 18, 2011 7:13 pm ]
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Some people ask, "After I get the number, how long should I wait to call/text her?" The answer is simple, you only call or text her when you are ready to set up the date. If you exchanged numbers and she texts/calls you first, you only answer or reply when you are ready to set up a date.

The purpose of getting the number is not to chat. She has her girlfriends for that. You should only have one thing on your mind when contacting her initially.
I agree with most of what you said in this post expect for the above quote.

Its usually better to start texting a girl like 2-4 hours after u meet her (especially if you met her during the day time. At night its not as necessary and you can sometimes wait until the next day). The reason for this is that you want to get the ball rolling of you guys being people that text and communicate with each other as soon as possible. And if there is a lot of time between when you guys first meet and when you can get a chance to set up the date, then you need to be keeping contact with her through text or through calling. Aside from setting up a date, THAT is the biggest reason to text and call girls. To not let that flame die out before you guys get a chance to go on a date.

And this is ESPECIALLY true if the initial interaction you had with the girl was really short. In that case, you're most likely gonna need text her a good amount and have a good half hour conversation with her before she feels comfortable to meet up.


I really don't understand you're idea about only answering or replying to a girl if you are ready to set up a date. That doesn't make any sense
Author:  thumper858 [ Wed May 18, 2011 8:57 pm ]
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Some people ask, "After I get the number, how long should I wait to call/text her?" The answer is simple, you only call or text her when you are ready to set up the date. If you exchanged numbers and she texts/calls you first, you only answer or reply when you are ready to set up a date.

The purpose of getting the number is not to chat. She has her girlfriends for that. You should only have one thing on your mind when contacting her initially.
I agree with most of what you said in this post expect for the above quote.

Its usually better to start texting a girl like 2-4 hours after u meet her (especially if you met her during the day time. At night its not as necessary and you can sometimes wait until the next day). The reason for this is that you want to get the ball rolling of you guys being people that text and communicate with each other as soon as possible. And if there is a lot of time between when you guys first meet and when you can get a chance to set up the date, then you need to be keeping contact with her through text or through calling. Aside from setting up a date, THAT is the biggest reason to text and call girls. To not let that flame die out before you guys get a chance to go on a date.

And this is ESPECIALLY true if the initial interaction you had with the girl was really short. In that case, you're most likely gonna need text her a good amount and have a good half hour conversation with her before she feels comfortable to meet up.


I really don't understand you're idea about only answering or replying to a girl if you are ready to set up a date. That doesn't make any sense
I only post things that I know have worked for me time and time again. With that said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Everyone is also free to pick and choose which methods they feel are best for them, even if they are picking and choosing different methods and putting them together.

With that said, texting a girl 2-4 hours after you meet regardless of the time of day IMO sends a message of "I'm needy".

Next you say that I want to give her the impression that we are two people who text and communicate as soon as possible? Not really sure what you meant by this, but again, if as soon as I get a girls number, I'm rushing to text or call her, what does that really say for my personal life? I have nothing better to do than to call/text a number I just got 4 hours ago?

Your next point is valid to some degree. If I wait a month after I get her number to contact her, there is a chance that she may not remember me. I may need to fluff her up a bit more to get a date. If on the other hand, my game is good to the point I am able to build up rapport, I piqued her interests while remaining mysterious, I could wait a few days to even up to a week to give her a shout.

As for keeping contact with her during that period. I'll pass. Again, I should have better things to do.

If the interaction is short then I'm gonna have to text her a lot and have a half hour conversation with her before she meets up with me? WOW! How do you explain guys who meet girls and go on instant dates with them? Even better, how do you explain guys who meet girls and F-close them the same day?

The whole point of not replying or answering a girls phone call before the date is so you don't say or do anything stupid that would make her think twice about not flaking on you. It's to put the ball back in your hands even though you're the one that asked her for a date. Once you give up control, the game is over.

Anyway, I've said enough. If this type of game works for you, then so be it. Again, I only post what I have done many times myself and know to work for me. Maybe it's not for everyone.

Game on fellas!
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Thu May 19, 2011 1:48 am ]
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No, the 2-4 hour thing works really well as long as you don't send something needy like "It was really nice meeting you today"

When a girl randomly meets a guy in the park or bookstore or whatever, she should have that cool feeling that people get when they first meet someone new and exciting. Texting her later that day helps to keep that fire going. Sometimes all it takes is one or 2 quick texts. I agree that OVERtexting is unneccessary, but there are a lot of guys trying to learn pick up who UNDERtext in fear of coming off as needy. In reality there is nothinng wrong with comminucating with a girl who likes you and who you like too. The dynamic of "we like each other and we're keeping in contact" is a great dynamic to have as long as its mutual.
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If the interaction is short then I'm gonna have to text her a lot and have a half hour conversation with her before she meets up with me? WOW! How do you explain guys who meet girls and go on instant dates with them? Even better, how do you explain guys who meet girls and F-close them the same day?
I don't think you understand what I meant about this. Instant dates and same day or same night lays are not at all what I'm talking about. I'm talking about if you met a girl, whether its at a bar/club or whether its during the day on the street or at a mall, and you only had a few minutes to talk to her ad you couldn't go on an instant date. Like, for instance if I was on a subway and I got a girls number after a 5 minute conversation and then we had to part ways. In those cases, you will most likely need to have a good phone conversation in order for her to be comfortable meeting up with you again. It doesnt matter how attracted she was during the inital interaction, alot of that fire will burn off unless you keep it going through communicating with her on the phone or at least through text. Girls that are just straight up more DTF it might not be necessary though.

Anyway, whatever. If that works for you, then thats great. But for me and for most students that I've seen, its usually better to keep some contact inbetween when you meet her and your date.
Author:  TonyMush [ Thu May 19, 2011 4:32 am ]
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This was the sort of thread I was exactly looking for. Glad I found this. Gonna try it out tomorrow on this girl and see how it goes.
Author:  thumper858 [ Thu May 19, 2011 12:28 pm ]
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This was the sort of thread I was exactly looking for. Glad I found this. Gonna try it out tomorrow on this girl and see how it goes.
Nice! Let us know how it works for you
Author:  thumper858 [ Sun May 22, 2011 8:31 pm ]
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Wanted to post a back and forth between me and the Kirby girl. When she was here, I DHV'd with a story and part of the story was me being referred to as "the black guy with earrings" by my co-workers..

Me: Holy freaking hangover! -the black guy with earrings
HB: Hahahaha! Whats up Thumper?
Me: Nada. Trying to get over this mistake of drinking too much last night. Figured a bad girl like yourself would have a few tips to give me.
HB: Best way to cure a hangover is to start drinking again! Only this time drink a couple glasses of water before passing out :)
Me: I knew getting your number would be good for something. Let's meet up later. See if you're better with a pool stick than with a deck of cards.
HB: Oh I know how to handle a stick! Pool stick I mean :) I'll see whats going on. I'm supposed to go dancing with some friends tonight.
Me: OK
HB: So what'd you do last night

Now I'm stuck in a little predicament here. My rule is, "If she says no and doesn't offer an alternative, then my last reply is OK and leave it at that" I do not contact her at all after the OK.

She didn't say yes or no. She didn't offer an alternative either. I'm gonna treat it as a "No with no alternative" and not respond.

She really got me with that last txt though. Me not responding could really send this one either way. I'll post again with the results.
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