PUA Forum :: Confused with what happened here...

Hey guys I'm new to this forum and kinda new to all this stuff in general but I have a interesting story in which I'm still baffled with why it happened this way.

So long story short I ended up meeting this HB9 at a bowling alley and striked up a good conversation with her and she gave me some ioi's so I ended getting her number by the end of the night.

So about 3-4 days go by and I end up texting this girl, and had a decent conversation in which I joked around a lot and just made her feel more comformtable with me. So I would end up texting her about once every 2-3 days with a response and a decent conversation this went on for about 2 weekish in which I built up DHV.

In which I finally asked her to go to applebees with me through role playing. She played a quick one on me the next day and said about a hour before we went she said she would be bringing a friend, but it worked out to my advantage because I negg'ed her and joked/around made fun of her the whole time and had both her and her friend laughing.

So after applebees her friend ended up leaving and we ended up going to the mall in which she basically intiated the touching/flirting right off the bat. She was extremely flirty and of course I flirted back, and everything went well and she seemed really into me and gave me lots of signs.

I ended up seeing her momentarily at a bowling alley the next week in which she stopped in and was extremely flirty again. But after this point on this is were bad shit happens...

She starts generally taking longer to repsond to texts (keep in mind im only texting her about once every 2-3 days), and ends up not answering me over a couple of texts so I basically start doing it back to her if she takes to long to respond.

So anyways I get to the point where I was going to straight up ask her to chill again, and I text her and eventually throughout the conversation she asks me "are you going bowling tonight" and I'm like perfect shes asking me this she obviously wants to hang out, and I was like yeah do you want to chill/bowl and she was like I'm hanging out with people later tonight after a basketball game. So i'm like wtf to myself, and she said she might be able to stop by and would let me know but never texted me to let me know and didnt show up.

So about a week goes by (kinda freezing out) and I finally text her and she was very responsive this time and we had a good conversation and ended up closing the conversation with asking her to hang out later this week and I gave a specific day and she said sounds good. (so I figured freezing out worked well)

So the night before that day comes I text her whats up, and she was like packing... And she was like im going on a trip and I asked when, She took about 2 hours to respond and was like tomorrow morning. So I was like wtf and never answered her.

So I waited about two weeks and texted her again, with no response at all. So I'm wondering what you guys think and some input would be nice. I don't know if she was just being dumb or what but those two instances where very stupid. But at this point I'm pretty much done unless she texts me first, in which I never mentioned but she only texted me first once and it was kind of earlier in the relationship. Looking back at it, I think my biggest problem was I ended up never calling her, and deploying any phone game. Which I planned on doing if she responded this last time, but never did.

Author:	Illusion07 [ Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:24 am ]
Post subject:	Confused with what happened here...
Hey guys I'm new to this forum and kinda new to all this stuff in general but I have a interesting story in which I'm still baffled with why it happened this way. So long story short I ended up meeting this HB9 at a bowling alley and striked up a good conversation with her and she gave me some ioi's so I ended getting her number by the end of the night. So about 3-4 days go by and I end up texting this girl, and had a decent conversation in which I joked around a lot and just made her feel more comformtable with me. So I would end up texting her about once every 2-3 days with a response and a decent conversation this went on for about 2 weekish in which I built up DHV. In which I finally asked her to go to applebees with me through role playing. She played a quick one on me the next day and said about a hour before we went she said she would be bringing a friend, but it worked out to my advantage because I negg'ed her and joked/around made fun of her the whole time and had both her and her friend laughing. So after applebees her friend ended up leaving and we ended up going to the mall in which she basically intiated the touching/flirting right off the bat. She was extremely flirty and of course I flirted back, and everything went well and she seemed really into me and gave me lots of signs. I ended up seeing her momentarily at a bowling alley the next week in which she stopped in and was extremely flirty again. But after this point on this is were bad shit happens... She starts generally taking longer to repsond to texts (keep in mind im only texting her about once every 2-3 days), and ends up not answering me over a couple of texts so I basically start doing it back to her if she takes to long to respond. So anyways I get to the point where I was going to straight up ask her to chill again, and I text her and eventually throughout the conversation she asks me "are you going bowling tonight" and I'm like perfect shes asking me this she obviously wants to hang out, and I was like yeah do you want to chill/bowl and she was like I'm hanging out with people later tonight after a basketball game. So i'm like wtf to myself, and she said she might be able to stop by and would let me know but never texted me to let me know and didnt show up. So about a week goes by (kinda freezing out) and I finally text her and she was very responsive this time and we had a good conversation and ended up closing the conversation with asking her to hang out later this week and I gave a specific day and she said sounds good. (so I figured freezing out worked well) So the night before that day comes I text her whats up, and she was like packing... And she was like im going on a trip and I asked when, She took about 2 hours to respond and was like tomorrow morning. So I was like wtf and never answered her. So I waited about two weeks and texted her again, with no response at all. So I'm wondering what you guys think and some input would be nice. I don't know if she was just being dumb or what but those two instances where very stupid. But at this point I'm pretty much done unless she texts me first, in which I never mentioned but she only texted me first once and it was kind of earlier in the relationship. Looking back at it, I think my biggest problem was I ended up never calling her, and deploying any phone game. Which I planned on doing if she responded this last time, but never did.

Author:	DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:34 am ]
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Sometime girls flake dude. Sucks, but its a part of the game. And the really flirty girls are the most likely to flake. Getting her on the phone would have definitely helped. I would NOt have waited 2 or 3 days to text her and I definitely would have called her. Another thing is, you don't need to be teasing her the whole time your on a date. Picking up girls is not about just teasing girls non-stop. You gotta have a REAL conversation with her and show interst in her for specific things that you like about her (i.e. qualifying).

Author:	johanwhite [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:42 am ]
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when she was really "flirty" she gave you a opening to man up, display some of your masculinity and show her that you want her and your not afraid to show it. not just beat around the bush and talk about some mundane topics.

Author:	tidalwaverider [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Confused with what happened here...
Quote: Hey guys I'm new to this forum and kinda new to all this stuff in general but I have a interesting story in which I'm still baffled with why it happened this way. So long story short I ended up meeting this HB9 at a bowling alley and striked up a good conversation with her and she gave me some ioi's so I ended getting her number by the end of the night. So about 3-4 days go by and I end up texting this girl, and had a decent conversation in which I joked around a lot and just made her feel more comformtable with me. So I would end up texting her about once every 2-3 days with a response and a decent conversation this went on for about 2 weekish in which I built up DHV. In which I finally asked her to go to applebees with me through role playing. She played a quick one on me the next day and said about a hour before we went she said she would be bringing a friend, but it worked out to my advantage because I negg'ed her and joked/around made fun of her the whole time and had both her and her friend laughing. So after applebees her friend ended up leaving and we ended up going to the mall in which she basically intiated the touching/flirting right off the bat. She was extremely flirty and of course I flirted back, and everything went well and she seemed really into me and gave me lots of signs. I ended up seeing her momentarily at a bowling alley the next week in which she stopped in and was extremely flirty again. But after this point on this is were bad shit happens... She starts generally taking longer to repsond to texts (keep in mind im only texting her about once every 2-3 days), and ends up not answering me over a couple of texts so I basically start doing it back to her if she takes to long to respond. So anyways I get to the point where I was going to straight up ask her to chill again, and I text her and eventually throughout the conversation she asks me "are you going bowling tonight" and I'm like perfect shes asking me this she obviously wants to hang out, and I was like yeah do you want to chill/bowl and she was like I'm hanging out with people later tonight after a basketball game. So i'm like wtf to myself, and she said she might be able to stop by and would let me know but never texted me to let me know and didnt show up. So about a week goes by (kinda freezing out) and I finally text her and she was very responsive this time and we had a good conversation and ended up closing the conversation with asking her to hang out later this week and I gave a specific day and she said sounds good. (so I figured freezing out worked well) So the night before that day comes I text her whats up, and she was like packing... And she was like im going on a trip and I asked when, She took about 2 hours to respond and was like tomorrow morning. So I was like wtf and never answered her. So I waited about two weeks and texted her again, with no response at all. So I'm wondering what you guys think and some input would be nice. I don't know if she was just being dumb or what but those two instances where very stupid. But at this point I'm pretty much done unless she texts me first, in which I never mentioned but she only texted me first once and it was kind of earlier in the relationship. Looking back at it, I think my biggest problem was I ended up never calling her, and deploying any phone game. Which I planned on doing if she responded this last time, but never did. Odds are she liked you. You probably didn't escalate or kino enough to turn her on, and you got stuck in the friend zone. One other beginner mistake is punishing a girl for texting or not texting you. Have the mentality that she's just one of many girls you can have at any given time, so that it won't matter if she takes forever to write you back. Send a text and then practice not caring if she replies immediately or in 2 months. Your attitude of not caring will be a DHV to her. This is NOT a suggestion that you send her multiple texts when she doesn't reply. That would be a DLV to normal girls. Don't text until she does, but the minute she does, answer back and keep it playful and fun. If you really want to get back at her for not texting, go out and meet some new girls.

Author:	kavakid [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:37 am ]
Post subject:	agreed, you didn't man up
yeah, you didn't escalate things in the mall / after the mall. I never have gone for the kiss. What I do is ask a chick if she likes to trade massages. Or I'll ask if she has ever had a hand massage. They actually feel amazingly good. I get results with the massage thing about half the time. But its better than zero which is what you get if you never escalate. I've even had a chick tell me that she would "keep it in mind" about a massage. I actually moved away about a week later and then she texted me wanting to hang out. Which was very unusual for her and she was dissapointed I was gone. If a chick isn't into the massage I am very polite about it. But I then freeze her out. If I run into her I am very polite but show no interest. This causes them to attract to me sometimes. If you want to come across as a player then you can say "most chicks I meet like massages". I told that to a chick that turned me down. And her attitude when I saw her last seemed to be such that she was affected by that comment. It caused her to be the weird one, not me. Because people are sheep and if they are told that they are weird then they will believe it. Once you get over the fear of rejection during an end game escalation...... you realize how silly it is that such a small thing as fear of little girls can block you from amazing sex. Get over it.

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Author:	Illusion07 [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:57 am ]
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Thanks for the advice guys, I appreciate it and I do realize what the problems were. I might give it another go and hit this girl up in a week or so, and see what happens. But thanks.

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