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Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  How to #close cashier in a supermarket?
Hey guys,
There's this cashier at the supermarket I like. And I guess she's at least curious about me since unlike other clients she always catches my EC strongly and it kinda looks like she'd want to chat up but either she's shy or does not feel comfortable from client-cashier perspective. Also the que that's always there isn't helping to have a conversation.
I always show a good vibe in front of her. Keeping nice EC, smiling, sometimes throwing one tiny bit one liners that pop in my head.
Yesterday I was there with my girl-friend which was quite handy (preselection ;)). So to break this cashier-customer barrier when my friend said to the cashier "Good evening" I burst out with "Hey :D" with a friendly smile on my face, like I'm greeting a friend. That girl was a bit surprised but rather in positive way :).
I was packing my groceries and teasing with my girl-friend there and just before I left I said to cashier "This girl is into me, I'm just playing hard to get :P". She laughed and I left. Later when I thought about this I figured I could follow this last line with "Do You have e-mail?" and follow up David D style but well... too late for that.

My question is,
How would You guys suggest me to get a #close from this girl? Considering there isn't much time to talk with this girl.
Author:  Znak [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:03 pm ]
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Hey Mav,

I am not the best at giving advices on closing, but she knows you and she seems to like you.

Next time:
You: hey, I think you're cute, when do you finish?
Her: "X"
You: perfect! I'll take you to Y bar/café

If she says yes take her #
If she says no => you say"nono not now but give your #so we can meet up later"

Caution it's not field tested.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:43 pm ]
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Do NOT ask for e-mail.....
If this is a girl you see often at the supermarket, which it sounds like it is, then you have the luxury of being able to talk to her for a split second like every time you go there, which is exactly what you should do. Just keep that up a little bit more and after you go there once or twice more and get one or two more of ur one-liners in, just go for the number. If you have a good amount of attraction, which it sounds like you do, you can just simply say something to the affect of "you seem really cool, and your adorable. So here's what were gonna do. Were gonna exchange numbers and if we like each other on the phone maybe we'll hangout." Don't overthink it. Flattery will get you pretty far when you're doing things like going for numbers or setting up dates. It's a necessary ingredient in picking up grls that alot of PUA people (who dont even get laid but for some reason wanna give you advice on how to pickup girls) don't do enough of.

And then since you didn't get a really good chance to have a good conversation with her in person, you're gonna have to do a little more qualification and comfort stuff when you're on the phone..
Bottom line though, is there isn't a magical way to get her number without much time to talk to her. Znak's advice is intowered much the right direction, cuz you just have to be direct and go for it. 
Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:50 pm ]
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@Steve
I don't agree about kissing up too much (which I think flattery is all about :lol:). Unless You wish to elaborate on when flattery is OK and when it's not (in your opinion of course) though I agree that when it comes to daygame I just need to be more direct (unlike night game where I feel better but not that great yet).
And I think You kinda misunderstood me. I am not asking for some magical advice to get girl's phone # without talking to her much. Hence my couple visits there and some one liners (ie. when usually shop attendants say "I don't have 1c to give You back. Is that ok?" I got into a habit of replying "Well... I'll just sue You. No big deal.")
And I know she remembers me 'cause of the way she looks at me. It startled me the first time I saw her there. There were some guys in front of me in a que and she barely look them (or other clients for that matter) in the eyes. Whereas when I walked up and look her straight in the eye smoothly she looked kinda nervous, looking down, back up and so on. So I think it's not just my imagination or ego... or even if it is the "It's ALWAYS ON " attitude will help me anyways :P.

After getting her phone # I think I might just make like one or two short calls and then ask her out somewhere. But that's not the point of this topic. It's just the ideas how can I #close her having people in que behind me who are in hurry etc.

@Znak
Yeah, I like Your idea. Will see if I find use for it ;)

Though I just came up with compliment on her eyes (since we both adore each others eyes I guess, rarely girl looks at me like this :>)
"You know what, I really like Your eyes" then calibrate with "Especially the left one" if needed. Then follow up with "Though I'm curious about You... Do You have [polish Instant Messenger that actually everybody uses]#?" and then hand her over piece of paper and a pen (bought myself lately a notepad I carry around :P) and as she writes it down I'd add "Write Your phone number and name as well". If I'll have time still I might look curiously at her number and ask her "Is this the number You actually answer?" and if she admits or I see sign of hesitation I'd say "Oh jeez, what are you doing, woman? Write me a number You do answer" playfully.
The routine above is actually from David DeAngelo only that instead of IM # he starts with e-mail (and that's what I meant in my initial post).

What do You guys think?

Mav-
Author:  Znak [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:07 pm ]
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I believe you think too much. IMO thinking is good when you study or work but with girls... not so sure.

Come on Mav you're obviously the coolest guy in your area, so how a little cashier can resist you?

It's like you're huge bear fighting a puppy, there's absolutely no hope for her, she just has to give her number!
Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:30 pm ]
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I see what You're getting at :P.
Day game isn't my thing and at this point I find it more challenging than night game.

Probably will use some of the approaches when I'll be there next time though again. I'd feel less pressure if not only for people waiting behind in a que.
But still it's very pleasing to brain storm with other guys and read what they think and what advices they have. That's why I preferred to ask since day game ain't my thing.
Author:  Znak [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:20 pm ]
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Well, you know I am still trying to convince myself it can work ;)

Otherwise, just tell her you think she's cute and just leave. Just for the practice.

When you tell her she's cute, it's not like you want to marry her. She's cute among millions of other cute girls.

For the people waiting, they are shadows, they don't belong to your reality... do you really care about them?

The worst thing that could happen is... you'll get a thank you
Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:29 pm ]
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Now You got me thinking about what to say if she says "no" or won't give me her phone number. I mean... I'm pretty sure that the chatting up will go smoothly but I'd feel even more confident if I had some comeback after rejection. Ideas anyone?
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:04 pm ]
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Listen, if I were u, I would wait until there isn't really any people in line and make it quick. You don't want to put too much pressure in her. Being hit on in public can be weird for some girls during the day if there are lots of other people watching. It seems like she likes you, so you can just go for the number quick. Stop over thinking it!!!!!!!! :) And don't worry about what could possibly go wrong. WORRYING ABOUT THAT WILL NOT HELP YOU AY ALL. You don't need a comeback if it goes wrong. If it DoES go wrong, then you can think about what to do differently the next time, but sitting here and trying to think of the ways it could go wrong and how to fix them will only make things worse for you, because it's just gonna fuck with your head. And the truth is, if it goes wrong, there probably isn't much you can do to turn it around anyway.

...About the whole flattery thing:
The fact that you don't agree is kind of a big thing that's wrong with pick-up in general. And it's not your fault. I blame the community as a whole. The thing is, everybody wants to learn all these negs and teases, and they forget that negging and teasing is JUST for attraction. And attraction is one of the most useless and overrated parts of picking up a girl. Getting attraction is necessary to get to the other phases, but you don't have to have that much attraction. You need a lot less than most people think. Flattery IS necessary. And I'm not taking about wussy, kissing up, try-hard, I'm just flattering you to get in your pants type flattery. I'm talking about actually complimenting girls for reasons that you actually like them. And not every compliment needs to be followed by something to take it back. When you go for a girls number or when you set up a date, you are expressing interest, an you are goin to need to express real interest in order for her to believe tht you actually kinda like HER and your not just some dude running around hitting on girls just to get in their pants.
Make sense?
Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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Then You just used the wrong words.
Flattery is somewhat "fake" and not honest.
While compliments are the ones You're talking about. And yes, I agree on that.
The pressure that can be on her in front of other people is what concerns me more than me being scooped by them :P. I don't want her to feel uncomfortable. But hovering around for a perfect moment isn't going to look spontaneous. There's rarely no que there.

I think I'm going to use simple "Ohh, there's that look again" [pause, EC] "What time do You finish?" (Credit to my wingman, Surielx) and then follow with what Znak said but only if there will be no people in que. Otherwise I'd just leave with "Cool, then I'll see You at [X]."
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:58 pm ]
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Ummmmm, I don't think it's the wrong word. You can genuinely flatter a girl. If I walk up to a girl during the day and tell her he's cute in a confident way, she will usually be genuinely FLATTERED. But I kneo the connotation of the word you were referring to. But whatever, the exact word doesn't matter.

Yea, I mean ur definitely not gonna stand there like a stalker an wait until the line is gone. You would have to be shopping around and just keep an eye on her register. It's definitely possible to do it smoothly without her noticing.

If you want you can write something on ur phone and show it to her..then you can hand we your phone and he can respond. Iv done stuff like tht and made it work before....
I don't think the "what time do u finish" is the best way to go. It's a little bit of a strong statement of intent for how early you are in the phases with this grl. But, if thts what u feel comfortable doing, do it. I'm curious to see how it goes. She likes you, so just about anything COULD work.
Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:17 pm ]
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Writing stuff on the phone is rather AFC :lol:. Would make me feel (and probably her as well!) that I've no guts to say it out loud. I just think I need to be more direct. I've been there and seen her couple of times. We always keep energetic EC and she seems happy to see me. I mean, she can serve people who are in front of me and still glance at me in between.
Not sure if I should excuse myself for NOT doing this :P. Like Your "it's too early for that" thought. I mean seriously, it's a market for god sake! What's Your intent of asking her out somewhere at a market if not only 'cause You like her :P? No matter what I'd say it'd be pretty much clear why I want to see her :P. Just give her some plausible deniability, ie. "This one guy asked me out at work so I went for a short walk with him and oops... we kissed. But I guess that was destiny. How could I fight such a thing? It just happened." :P
I really appreciate Your advices. I like brainstorming like this. It helps me to move past my false beliefs etc.
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:36 pm ]
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Yea the thing is, it's only AFC if you make it AFC. It's funny how many pick-up "rules" you can break just by being confident and sure of yourself.

What do mean "I'm not sure I'd I should excuse myself for not doing this"? Not doing wht?
Author:  Mav- [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:43 pm ]
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'Cause you're saying that:
Quote:
I don't think the "what time do u finish" is the best way to go. It's a little bit of a strong statement of intent for how early you are in the phases with this grl.
in other words, that it's too early for me to saying something "strong" like "What time do You finish?" 'cause I don't know her well. Well of course I don't, that's where we got this whole concept of "getting to know each other" :P. This seemed to me like excusing myself for not saying something like this. But hell... that's probably yet another thing we misunderstood each other about :lol:

And about these "rules". I get what You mean. It's like going to one girl and asking her while pointing to another girl:
Hey, I'm a bit shy and I like that girl over there. Could You introduce me to her? :P
Author:  giles [ Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:44 pm ]
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I like Znak's idea. Especially as she seems to like you.
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