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Author:  TimeMatters [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  God may be the only one to save this one...

In my eyes Ive got a sinking ship on my hands. In her eyes, there's a good chance the boat is just beginning to leave the harbor. My goal is two get both boats safely out to sea... anyway.. I've seen this chick like 3-4 times, hung out.. did some random stuff.. Im just coming out of a 5 year relationship, shes just coming out of a 2 year relationship... I know her ex, she knows mine... Odd situation.. She is one of the first chicks Ive put my game on since breaking up.. There was a bit of a quick learning curve, but I was able to suck her in eventually. Thing is, I have not kissed the chick yet, {93% a.) I'm friend zoned 7% b.) she's so intrigued by my lack of moving in on her that she cant wait to see what happens next}. Im no idiot, she is still digging me, she texts me non stop, body language is there, kino is there. Ive been super hesitant because of my vulnerable state. Im still barely over my ex ect. This all may sound odd, but I'm only 20, shes 19 but both living at home going to school ect, so our options are limited as far as hanging out ect. If I had the option to have a few drinks with her and what not it would be game over... Bottom line is, next time I see her Id like to kiss her and see where it takes us. Ive had the chance, 20 times and have just not been able to pull through. hahaha so help me out here..Im really lost now and how/why/when the kiss happens is important this point I strongly believe. Im thinking we go out grab a bite to eat, then take her out and shoot some photos of the sunset (we are both into photography), grab her, and be like: you know what would be perfect right now.. she says no what, i say come here, she does, close your eyes, she does and boom kiss her... its a chance to save face in my opinion..... is this ridiculous, do i cut my ties and run, what the hell do i do.. I think Ive included as much detail as necessary for this all to make sense...I will be forever grateful if someone can chime in here and just push me in the right direction..

Author:  PUA Kenny [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:31 pm ]
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Hell no!!

Why would you cut ties when according to you,she's definitely into you?

The risk you're running is being put in the friend zone.

If you drag out this non-KINO vibe any longer,she will LJBF you.

On a side note:why the hell you are allowing thoughts of your ex to prevent you from laying this girl?

Your ex is laying other guys.

So you need to step up and lay this girl pronto.

Do not cut and run yet.

Author:  TimeMatters [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:18 am ]
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Reassurance, thank you bro...

I'm just tied up man, my relationship ended pretty abruptly, which left me very confused WHICH is now leading to my hesitation.. ahaha idk either way this chick is great practice for me...


what do you think I can do to further this, make it more clear my intentions and then eventually going in for the kill.. i may be over thinking it all but i have this mind set that now i have to do something much more epic so to speak in terms of moving in on her since ive had the opportunity and didn't take it.. any advice on this or am I just crazy? I can tell that the girl is no idiot, she hasnt started playing with me yet but I just want to have the perfect execution..

Author:  PUA Kenny [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:46 am ]
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I just broke up with my ex of 2 years just a week or so ago.

In fact,she broke up with me.

So I get where you're coming from.

You dont need to be so epic with this girl.

Just go KINO.

Touch her before it gets too weird for her(even you).

The longer you go witout touching a girl,when you do gather the cojones to touch her,it's gonna weird her out.

Dont make your intentions clear[whatever that intention is].

Just lead into it without the verbal.

You actually had a semi-perfect idea when you wrote about taking photos,then going for a kiss close.

Good idea!

There are many classic-kiss close routines,but yours can work.

What would spoil it is if you attempt that out of the blue.

You should KINO her(touch,tug,pull)before trying to kiss her.

Author:  TimeMatters [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:10 am ]
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ya man, i feel for ya.. she dumped me, wasnt expecting it....

as far as kino, i full understand the concept and thats the thing man, the kino is absolutely there... when i am with her she is constantly pushing, touching, grabbing my hand ect and likewise for me ... thats how much of an idiot ive been... when we have hung out, ive dropped her off at her house each time ( which would have been precise kiss time) and idk going from dropping my ex off with the mandatory evening kiss to her each time, to the present moment i kind of had a WTF moment hahaha... i probably shouldve played on the fact that shes afraid of the dark and walked her to the door (realizing this now, of course)... idk... all of this analyzing is definitely helping me get back into the swing of things though...

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