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| Author: | saranjames [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | LMR with Inexperienced Virgin |
I could really use some advice on last minute resistance (lmr). I’ve not experienced it very often, usually because I over play the earlier stages of the game and closing is easy. So here’s my current situation, I’m in college and a met a girl a few weeks ago at a college club. We got on well and arranged a day 2. We met up a couple of times, and on the second meeting I went for the kiss-close. She’s young and pretty inexperienced, and said she was embarrassed. I used some kino and we ended up making out with some second base. I was pretty pleased with this given she didn’t want to do anything to start with. The next time I saw her she told me she didn’t want to do anything physical (including kissing) if we weren’t in a relationship. We talked about where we both were in life and what we were looking for (I’m looking for something pretty casual, she something slightly more romantic). The next two times we met I used the old kino to get a kiss-close, and some pretty hot and heavy making out. However, it didn’t feel quite right. She then went home for a couple of weeks and when she came back said that she really wasn’t comfortable being so intimate at this point in our friendship. We’ve seen each other a couple of times since then and she won’t let me open. Last time I asked if I could kiss her (I know, AFC!) and she said no so I tried to use some cat-string by going a little cold. In the end I think it just came off as me sulking. I’m not quite sure what to do now. She is a lot less experienced than me, and wants to take things super-slow. She describes us as being in a casual relationship, and I don’t think she is at a point in her life where she really knows how the dating game works. I like her, but have other women in my life and am quite open about not wanting to have an exclusive relationship right now. My analysis of the situation is that I didn’t make her qualify herself to me properly, as it was fairly obvious that we were both into each other. This added to my own lack of ‘commitment’ adds up to her not wanting to invest too heavily herself. My fear is that I am going to waste a lot of time with this girl and get nowhere, or that our connection will go stale. Like I said at the top I’m not used to being in this situation so some advice would be really good. The options I have come up with so far are as follows: 1. Keep seeing her (currently twice a week) and use kino to try and move up the intimacy scale. This feels increasingly awkward as I’m basically ignoring what she wants (or says she wants), and I don’t want to ruin my chances of a full-close by pushing too hard early on. 2. Freeze her out of my life a little. Rather than seeing her twice a week, chatting, and giving her cuddles, I could cut it down to a bare minimum. This would show her that I can’t be manipulated, and that if she wants to enjoy my company we need to be on the same page about both our needs. 3. Make her jealous. Make her realise that I have some really great options in my life, and that she is just one of them. If she wants to continue enjoying my company she has to earn the right over other women. Well, thanks for reading this far guys. If you want any more details just ask. Your advice, as always, is very much appreciated. |
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| Author: | stinger 13 [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:27 am ] |
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that's tough man, but she may just be pretending. women are pretty up to par with these things intuitively and she's probably getting a ton of advice from her girlfriends. Trust me, they're telling her different things and she's quiet confused about stuff herself. I'd say mix up option 2 & 3. START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SHARING HOW AWESOME YOU ARE ( JUST DHV A LOT) THEN PUSH HER AWAY VERY HARD THROUGH QUALIFICATION. It seems she is waiting to feel a special connection with you to give it up if she really is a virgin. girls throw that out there a lot (she may be lying). anyways. set a frame for her and make her jump through hoops (qualifying - saying you like this and that and that she's not the complete package but you're still interested in certain things about her. Tell her you like her and you want to be with her but you're giving her 6 weeks to make up her mind and that you're currently dating other girls as well. 6 weeks is more than enough time to decide whether she can "give it up" to you. Also tell her you have other options and that whoever (women) gives herself to you, then you're willing to spend time with that women. Make it plain and simple for her. Don't force it but lay it out plainly. BE THE PRIZE and HARD TO GET ! |
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| Author: | stinger 13 [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:29 am ] |
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that's tough man, but she may just be pretending. women are pretty up to par with these things intuitively and she's probably getting a ton of advice from her girlfriends. Trust me, they're telling her different things and she's quiet confused about stuff herself. I'd say mix up option 2 & 3. START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SHARING HOW AWESOME YOU ARE ( JUST DHV A LOT) THEN PUSH HER AWAY VERY HARD THROUGH QUALIFICATION. It seems she is waiting to feel a special connection with you to give it up if she really is a virgin. girls throw that out there a lot (she may be lying). anyways. set a frame for her and make her jump through hoops (qualifying - saying you like this and that and that she's not the complete package but you're still interested in certain things about her. Tell her you like her and you want to be with her but you're giving her 6 weeks to make up her mind and that you're currently dating other girls as well. 6 weeks is more than enough time to decide whether she can "give it up" to you. Also tell her you have other options and that whoever (women) gives herself to you, then you're willing to spend time with that women. Make it plain and simple for her. Don't force it but lay it out plainly. BE THE PRIZE and HARD TO GET ! |
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| Author: | hawksterG [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:44 pm ] |
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Don't tell her you like her. Shes already got you on her leash by withholding intimacy with you. Don't make her jealous. If shes inexperienced and shy, you making her jealous will just make you come off as a douche and create a hatred for guys with her. Play it cool. Cut the contact. When you do chill. Tease her alot and don't do anything physical, create the tension. After a while, you can try staring her down and saying something like "Lets not play games anymore, I know you're missing it" And if she responds and trys to make out, don't. For a second...then go for it! Just cause shes inexperienced, does not mean shes not clever. |
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| Author: | saranjames [ Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:34 am ] |
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Thanks for the replies guys. This one actually worked out really well. I'd already started edging away from her and the day after I posted my original message she spontaneously, and without any escalation on my part, took us to the next level  A good result all round, we're enjoying a great casual relationship. The motto of the story: have a clear frame, be a good guy, and the smart girls will see what you're worth. |
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| Author: | hawksterG [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:25 pm ] |
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Cheers! I'm glad it all worked out. |
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| Author: | CountMackula [ Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LMR with Inexperienced Virgin |
Sounds like you played it well. Some women want to feel in control until you get to the bedroom. They just arent comfortable letting you take full control. My question to you would have been, if you have other women in your life and things are good, then who gives a shit if she wants to go a little slow. Just be ready to escalate when the opportunity is there and don't get too caught up in "the relationship". Enjoy the woman. |
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