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Author:  nikPUA [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:54 pm ]
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I am soooooo f@cking pissed with myself. Just dropped a girl off home, and didnt kiss her. She then sends me a sms as im driving home "i really wanted to kiss you". What a idiot i am... I think its a big problem of mine... I seem to believe no one is that interested. My game is good if girls make the initial move, ie approach to kiss etc. but with stuff like day 2's i suck. The reply i gave to that sms was "i know, good things come to those who wait" she replied "oh really"

Please help me with this in any way possible, i really need it.

Truly greatfull, nikPUA
Author:  AdamThomas [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:13 pm ]
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You just need to man up and go for the kiss next time mate. Whether you think they like you or not just go for it, don't wait for the perfect time. Even if she turns her head she'll see that you've got the balls to make a move, it's never a bad thing as long as you don't seem too aggressive or desperate.
Author:  nikPUA [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:58 pm ]
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But i think its more than that... when im chatting with girls i tend to just give up cause i dont think they are into me...ie if we are chatting away and i got get much of a response i usually just walk away. it sucks i know
Author:  tweeby [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:28 am ]
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You're putting too much pressure on yourself. And you are pessimistic about everything.

Even NOW. FUCKING now...

You've just received a text from a girl who has basically offered you an open net.

WTF??? Go kiss her the next time.

It's your sticking point that all. Soon, you will be kissing every girl on your day 2. Then sex will be your next sticking point.

Just...Relax...Stop thinking...Get your next shot with her and do it.
Author:  nikPUA [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:31 am ]
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yeah i dont think you get it.... UNLESS a girl makes the first move, i walk away

I really need to get a hold of this....is there any material anyone can think of that will help me?
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:30 am ]
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It's fine mate.

She told you she's still interested and would be open to a kiss next time.

So now you know, when you see her next time, you CAN kiss her, and MORE probably.


DON'T keep waiting around for girls to make a move. Only about 5-10% MAX of women, in the US/UK are comfortable doing that because they are sexually dominant types or just very liberated (or maybe drunk...) You'll spend a lot of time frustrated.

Remove your limiting belief that she's not interested - you KNOW from this experience that at least one girl DEFINITELY is.

Remove your worry that she might "reject" you.

Just on Wednesday night a girl who had previously "rejected" my first kiss attempt the last time I saw her, told me she wasn't going to fuck me about 5-6 times over the course of the evening, from when we started kissing all the way up to until we were naked, I'd just fingered her, and she'd just sucked my dick! "Rejection" usually just means "not yet" or "I don't want to seem too easy." Just ignore it and be completely unreactive, and you'll likely succeed if you just wait a few minutes and try again.
Author:  pua_666 [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:38 am ]
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Body Language 101 highly recommended :wink:
Author:  nikPUA [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:45 am ]
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Body Language 101 highly recommended :wink:
any chance i could get a link. I googled it but there are so many diff things
Author:  pua_666 [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:23 am ]
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Author:  AdamThomas [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:32 am ]
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Don't wait for her to show she's interested, just do it. If she's still satin front of you after 10 minutes assume that as an IOI, because if she thinks you're a cunt she'll leave before then. There is no material or reading that will help you get over this fear. Just do it.
Author:  tweeby [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:01 pm ]
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To the OP... Reading a PDF won't make much difference here.

Why? Well basically this girl has told you, in no uncertain terms, she's ready to be FUCKED. And you're still here making up excuses.

'I can't do it unless I know she makes the first move... Blah blah blah.' In fact, knowing that this girl is ready to be FUCKED has probably made you even more nervous because now you have added pressure.

What happened to you as a child or as a young adult to make you feel this way, I don't know... But whatever... The truth is guys like you will always end up making excuses when you have a shot at an open GOAL. This is your issue... you must get over.

A great way to blast your way through something like this is to just go out and open. Escalate as much as possible. Do this for long enough and soon when you are presented with a girl you actually see as GF potential the escalation process becomes natural.

Chances are this GIRL is a lost cause... Chances are you already started to overthink this one... Chances are your nervous energy is going to be so great it will transfer ten times over onto her and she will sense this and run for the hills.

I remember I was offered more or less an open net once, and I completely choked.

But don't worry... this can be fixed.
Author:  nikPUA [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:28 pm ]
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Well guys... i manned up with great success to a point, explain later. I just think i have a prob in general taking it to the next level. I find it hard to transition.

Well with my sucess comes failure as well. I got her into bed thanks to all your advice.... had about half an hour foreplay.... BTW i dont suck in bed, i have always been given great feedback from past gf and strangers, they always want to go again but guess what... SHE WAS DRY LIKE THE SAHARA. Wasnt even wet enough to play with the clit...she kept telling me to just put it in and she will get into it but i didnt as i ALWAYS make a girl cum before sex. WTF is this all about...its never happened to be before
Author:  tweeby [ Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:47 pm ]
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I stand corrected...

But now you've gotten over this kiss, you're trying to make another excuse with the sex... Just stop over analysing this and do it!
Author:  DirectSeduction [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:19 am ]
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yes you are but you can easily recover
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