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Author:  Mdog [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:32 pm ]
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So I've got a girl cooking for me at her place for a first date. :wink: Any asap hints or tips for a 'full-close' for when the evening arrives? Thanks guys
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:59 pm ]
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Very nice MDog,but to actually give solid tips,we'd need to know the stage of this and what phase you're in.

Assuming you're in comfort phase or past(since she's comfortable enough to invite you to her place),only thing left is seducing her.

General tips:Get close,be close,sit close...

Lot of guys make the mistake of being standoffish out of a false sense of respect.

Get comfortable and dont be nervous and shifty or she'll get nervous also.

So thats the basic tip;sit close to her to begin with,but not so close as to be threatening(face to face),but sit side to side.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:04 pm ]
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Her inviting you over to her place = "I want you to smear me with raspberry jam and then slowly lick it off my hot body until my pussy is soaking fucking wet"

Be super flirty, fun and sexual. Hanging out in the kitchen is great because there's a lot more opportunity for kino than sitting down at a table in a restaurant.

Start off simple, but build up quickly using push-pull. Half way through the evening, say when she's doing something in the kitchen over the sink, come behind her, put your arms around her, smell her neck and whisper that she smells amazing, then either kiss or bite her neck, or spin her around and kiss her, or both ;-) Women LOVE that.

Treat this as if she has said "I want you to come over and fuck." Be THAT confident.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:19 pm ]
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Definitely Blondguy,but reason I asked what phase Mdog's in is because he cannot just attempt the above if he's never flirted with her before.

Well,Mdog,you can start when you get to her place.

And Mdog,what's your game like?

Out tips wont work if you're a 100% newbie and suffer from chronic anxiety.

So it'd be good to know what level you're on.
Author:  Shyler [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:27 pm ]
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Her inviting you over to her place = "I want you to smear me with raspberry jam and then slowly lick it off my hot body until my pussy is soaking fucking wet"

Be super flirty, fun and sexual. Hanging out in the kitchen is great because there's a lot more opportunity for kino than sitting down at a table in a restaurant.

Start off simple, but build up quickly using push-pull. Half way through the evening, say when she's doing something in the kitchen over the sink, come behind her, put your arms around her, smell her neck and whisper that she smells amazing, then either kiss or bite her neck, or spin her around and kiss her, or both ;-) Women LOVE that.

Treat this as if she has said "I want you to come over and fuck." Be THAT confident.
Simple and gold.
...
Damn I feel like doing this right now!
Author:  Mdog [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:44 pm ]
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Thanks guys. I'm new to the PUA community. I've only discovered it due to Neil Straus's 'The Game.'

To be honest I'm a pretty confident guy already. I've realised that I do a lot of PUA tips naturally already, although I have learned new theories and advice I wasn't aware of before such as negging. I've always been comfortable around girls but tended to f#*k things up due to serious caveman tendencies and a lack of knowledge between whether it was a 'Lets Just be friends' relationship or not.

Think I'll take it slow seduction style with this girl. My intuition suggests that she's not the sort of girl that just puts out, especially since she's only had 1 BF in the past. Probably a little over confident for me to go for a full close on a first date. Thanks for the tips though guys. I'll be back on here to update my progress
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:03 pm ]
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Lol,good to know that at least you're confident to begin with.

But you have the wrong mind set as far as "taking it slow with this girl".

There's no such thing as a specific girl not being the type to put out on the 1st date.

Every woman is bangable on the 1st meet.

If you dont believe that,well that should be your mindset.

You may need to read some women psycology stuff on the topics of plausible deniability,etc.

The sluttiest girl would never admit to being a slut.

So assume that every girl is bangable 1st date.

If you move too fast,you can always slow down.

But if you move too slow,she'll get turned off and you wont have another shot.

So better off having her telling you,"we need to slow down".

Than,"we need to speed up",which she will never tell you.
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:32 pm ]
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assume that every girl is bangable 1st date.

If you move too fast, you can always slow down.

But if you move too slow, she'll get turned off and you wont have another shot.
YES. Spot on.

Remember, a girl is not allowing you to have sex with her. It's not some magical thing she's giving to you if you please her enough. It's something she enjoys, a LOT. Your job is to enable her to open up the right way by showing you are dominant, confident, discreet, non-judgmental, know your intentions and are honest about them.

Just last week I f-closed a girl who hadn't had sex in 2 whole YEARS with ANYONE. She's very attractive, slim and petite, but she mentioned something about a really bad experience (I'm guessing her ex bf abused or raped her) that had turned her off sex for all this time. If I can do that, you can fucking kiss a girl's neck when she's cooking dude.

TRY IT.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:55 pm ]
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Spot on Blondguy.

Guys,lets get ride of the notion that girls dont want to F***(lol).

They want it.

And Mdog,if you dont give it to her,she'll keep hoping for that guy who will ravage her.

As Blonguyguy said,dont judge her.

Subcommunicate to her that you wont judge her for F-closing 1st date.

While she's cooking,preparing something in kitchen,go up behind her and kiss her,stroke her neck,whatever!!!

This will seem weird if you just did it out the blue after sitting quiet for 2 hours(lol).

So go KINO(hug,kiss)from the time you enter her place,so it wont feel weird to kino escalate later.
Author:  Mdog [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:02 pm ]
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Just need to put in a couple of other pieces of info that may or may not change your suggestions.

1) The date invite to her place was more of my idea. Went something like this:

girl - 'well what do you want to do?'
me - 'I'm free on thursday evening, you could show me your cooking skills at your place'

So the date at hers was spurred on by me

2) I had a bad experience with this girl at my old flat. Kissing on my sofa, kino stuff. But she wouldn't sleep with me. Fell out with her after that, she told me I was arrogant, I thought she was weird and not into me enough.

Now I'm learning some of this PUA stuff hopefully the flat experience won't happen again. Just a bit more cautious after that. Could do with any extra advice you feel necessary.

Thanks
Author:  Mdog [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:21 am ]
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All successful, got the f-close. :)

Thanks for the help
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:49 pm ]
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Lol,for real?

Let us know how it went down.
Author:  Saro [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:15 pm ]
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Lol yeah make a lay report
Author:  Conker [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: first date her place
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So I've got a girl cooking for me at her place for a first date. :wink: Any asap hints or tips for a 'full-close' for when the evening arrives? Thanks guys
My advice: Get the idea of a full-close out of your head and just have as much fun as possible. If she's enjoying your company and getting more and more attracted to you, she'll practically rip your clothes off. (Well actually you will most likely have to make the first move but it will be fairly obvious that it's time to do that)

One good rule of thumb is sometimes you have to show you're willing to lose it all in order to get it. And when i say that, I don't mean "act" like you're willing to lose it all, I mean you really have to accept that things may not happen and you're going to have fun anyway, just another way. It gives her a chance to build comfort.

Analogy; I kept getting LMR and the INSTANT I did, I folded my arms across her in a "buddy" type way and just said "It's up to you" something like that. After enough back and forth of that, she wanted to go all the way. Thing is, I was fully prepared to stop there, but I left it hanging so she had the choice to go either way. If I wasn't fully prepared to stop there, the body language wouldn't have come across right.

And that's what I mean - you have to just be preparing to have a lot of fun and make the most of whatever happens. If you get in your head you have to do things to convince her to have sex with you, you'll just end up acting weird.
Author:  Conker [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:58 pm ]
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I have an exception in memory, where I did have a goal in mind, but it was a very different sitiuation. Girl I moved in with, we were starting to sleep together, and one night she was really irrationally cranky when I got home, and I told myself "I'm going to bed her tonight." and sure enough I turned her mood around and she was happy and jumped into bed with me at the end of the night. But I had lived with her for a bit and we'd spent time together and I had some sense of how to deal with her. This is not the same as being on a 1st or 2nd date with a girl you don't know so well and are just forging the beginnings of a relationship. This girl and I were already having sex like bunnies at that point.
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