ill try and keep this short and as accurate as possible without getting into ev detail.
- this girl at my exes workplace is smoking hot, easy 9+ and my ex HATES her and says terrible things about her since the day she started... it was all because shes jealous of her. my ex is equally good looking but they are different ethnicities and im partial to this one rather than my ex.. she knew that
-anyway.. my ex and i broke up two months ago.... and despite some calls, visits and texts good and bad fr them to now.. i decided shes a bitch and i dont want her back or to talk to her at all... cuz of this she got reallllly mad and started saying bad shit about me to ev1 she knew
- so i started talking to this girl at her work and she told me all the things... and it took about 3 weeks of talking to this girl (mostly txt and FB msgs) to convince her my ex was bullshitting...(she actually was)... and then she asked about things she had said about HER....
- we've had laughs and jokes and stuff bonding over the dislike of my ex etc.. but im super busy and so is she....but now finally shes opening up and being happy, talking about herself...etc.. and we are making plans to hang out this weeek.. etc... it wasnt easy. she kept saying things in the beginning like "well if it was my ex talking to HER it would tear me apart... so if you asked me out id have to say no.. i believe in karma and" blah blah.... and i have a no friendes exes rule or exes good friends.. but this girl wasnt a friend of hers so......
-now shes really excited to come over and hang out.. have food. some wine and sing karaoke..(lol.. yes karaoke..) at my place... shes comfy enough to9 come over.. since ive met her a few times at her work.....
- i always added a few sexually themed jokes.. but nothing too direct and shed laugh... but i made a direct one... regarding staying at her parents place where shes from .. she said her mom would kill her.... and i said "its ok.. tell them we'll only have sex when no one is home" and all she said was "because ur still new to me sex jokes offend me.. a lot of guys do that with me" thats the gist.....
-then went on to reply and laugh at other things.... so i replied with something like "im comfortable with it.. its just how i talk..... blah blah... be a little more open..... and i wouldnt say we are new weve been talking for over a month!.. you should know me a bit by now..... also dont compare me to lotsa guys.. im not them... im special... you should know THAT by now too
.. seriously tho.... i am direct and sarcastic, its just how i am... i do understand your perspective though.. so no worries..... lets just keep going" this is all true though i am that way .. and if i just said sorry sorry.... that is lying cuz i would never... but most guys would and have so maybe the challenge is good... she also said we couldnt talk anymore cuz she thought she would be hurting my ex...... if i listened to that too wed have not talked for the last month n a bit so..
then the rest of the msg was huge.. we write realllllly long msgs to each other..
anyway... my issue here is this......i ALWAYS get girls that give me the "easy on the sex talk" response and i usually kill it asap.. like within 10 mins... in person. but through texting and shit its difficult..... i had to come direct tho i did it on purpose to get here.. because we were talking about soo much stuff and kept saying "we'll talk about the serious stuff when we hang out" .. that i wanted to make sure it didnt hit friends zone... most of my frist dates 90% of them end with sex... esp if they start at my place.......
i donno if i should make any moves on her first date though if shes really insecure about sex....... she hasnt had a bf in a long time.. like two years.. and doesnt really date.. shes kind of a loner.. moved here for school almost a year ago...
- im not looking to make her a hook up....cuz i have several... this girl i actually really like and want to keep around.. i know after one night together shed be 'in love' im just not sure how quickly i can move on her... shes also kinda reserved from her culture too.. not to the extreme but... i think thats where the seriousness comes from.... she gets hit on A LOT where she works.. hundred times a day or more.... just like my ex....
any advice... our first date is in my apt...... on my bed.. movies, karaoke and ....ive never had a girl over for a first date and then just said good night, always get sex or oral at least....... but if just watch her leave.. i feel like doing that will kill it! ...and for sure me in friends zone... but not doing that could get hard rejection if we arent there yet.....
im not new by any means... i had to make another account just now cuz my original seems to be having issues... or i forgot my password... (i am still wrecked from the weekend) so i know how to escalate.... im pretty sure i can get away with the touching... light pushing... tickling etc.. but i FEEL like this girl shuts guys down HARD when it comes to the kiss....
i donno how to handle this date.... normally i dont care and just do what i WANT and it goes well like everytime... this time i like her ...
its not oneitis or nethin... .. and im still fresh out of something... i just know the diff between a girl i like and a girl i like to fuk,,,,, this one i like....
any ideas?
sorry the post is so long.