This is just my opinion, maybe someone can show me the other side of things, but personally i don't think a k-close at the end of a first date is the best thing to do, just because you cannot build that much rapport and comfort between a girl in just one date to end it off with a kiss. Now I know you guys are probably thinking "but it shows that you have interest in her, and trying to avoid the friend zone", but there are other ways of showing interest to her through kino. You would be much safer to do a k-close maybe at a second date, but third for sure which is what I usually do; the third date. If you had a great time on the first date, then chances are she isn't going reject your offer on a second or third date, where by the end of it there is going to be enough comfort between the two of you for a k-close.

Im not trying to discourage anyone, k-closes on first dates are possible and they happen. But you have a better and safer chance of doing it on a second or third date. I just wanted to say this and see what you guys have to say about it. Agree or disagree?

thanks