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Author:  masak [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Couldn't close a shirtless girl griding on me on her bed
I went to this girl's house while everyone was out. We planned to smoke weed while there and hang out. We were in her room the whole time.

We madeout for a good while, and shirts came off when i made an attempt to go for her pants. (she said she'll take off her shirt instead of her pants.) I tried for the bra next, she said she didn't want to take it off. I was cool with it and said "I understand". We madeout more, and she started grinding on me up and down. she started doing it a lot harder. I told her I wanted her when we pulled apart for a second. She just stopped and laid on top of me and didn't say a word. She just said "I don't know, I think we should stop." She then got up and put her shirt back on.

After all this she told me that right before she asked me to come over, she swallowed a bunch of pills to try and kill her self. I know this sounds dramatic, but this girl is pretty over dramatic. Turns out she took 17 Advil to try and kill her self. I mean thats definitely not healthy, but no where near a lethal dose.

I really wanted to close this girl, but now i don't even know what to say to her.
Author:  Mysterious Pua [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:52 am ]
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Heres my 2cents. Shes an emotional wreck and if that is true then you do not want her-not even for a fuck buddy.

Move on and find a girl whos got it together! Hope this helps!
Author:  Conker [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:32 pm ]
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I think it's better to talk with your body. Escalate things, and when she complains, say something comforting and back off. If she says something explicit, eg. "I don't want you to touch me there yet." Then just don't, for the rest of that night. She will need to see that you won't disobey such a direct order about something very sensitive. Just do other things. Escalate the attraction :)

And yeah she's fucked up, you could be in for a rough ride, but it could be good anyway. If you like her, go for it.
Author:  Skylark [ Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:46 pm ]
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"Escalate things, and when she complains, say something comforting and back off. If she says something explicit, eg. "I don't want you to touch me there yet." Then just don't, for the rest of that night. She will need to see that you won't disobey such a direct order about something very sensitive"

I disagree with this.
Author:  masak [ Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:04 pm ]
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"Escalate things, and when she complains, say something comforting and back off. If she says something explicit, eg. "I don't want you to touch me there yet." Then just don't, for the rest of that night. She will need to see that you won't disobey such a direct order about something very sensitive"

I disagree with this.
well what part would you do differently?
Author:  Skylark [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:51 am ]
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Her saying things like 'I don't want you to' etc. when she's showing CLEAR signs of arousal and desire, are often token resistance. You have to bear in mind that the reason she's unsure about it is usually just a LACK OF COMFORT; this is quite conveniently something that can be moved past in that moment and dealt with at a later stage.

...I'm not saying like, rape her. I'm saying don't consider 'I don't want you to' as a rejection. Just consider it another hurdle you need to get over. Sometimes a girl's brain just needs a bit of liberating :)
Author:  Conker [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:09 pm ]
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Hm well when I said that I was thinking of a virgin girl I'm seeing. Understandably she doesn't want to just give it all up to some guy on the first night. I keep making out with her and she keeps responding positively, but every now and again says things like "I'm not some package you're going to unwrap all at once!" and I laugh.

On the other hand I have a friend-with-benefits who's at the point where she's adamantly telling me "No - Conker - stop, I'm serious!" right before she's cumming and afterwards she's quivering with post orgasm shivers saying "I hate you." and yet she keeps coming over for more. I guess that's the way she gets off - I guess if she really wanted me to stop she'd punch me in the face or something, hahah.

Hard to describe, but sometimes there's just normal resistance, sometimes there's role playing, and sometimes there's "no means no". I guess working out which is which is a case-by-case thing.
Author:  masak [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:59 am ]
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Her saying things like 'I don't want you to' etc. when she's showing CLEAR signs of arousal and desire, are often token resistance. You have to bear in mind that the reason she's unsure about it is usually just a LACK OF COMFORT; this is quite conveniently something that can be moved past in that moment and dealt with at a later stage.

...I'm not saying like, rape her. I'm saying don't consider 'I don't want you to' as a rejection. Just consider it another hurdle you need to get over. Sometimes a girl's brain just needs a bit of liberating :)
Yeah, I feel like the reason she wont escalate is because we've never escalated in the past. I've known her for a while. We just recently started seeing each other. She definitely gets aroused when we makeout for awhile though. Next time i guess i'll just go for it rather than ask. Perhaps if she pushed me away I could say something like a "Yeah i know this is bad, but it's a new experience." sorta thing.
Author:  Z-Wrex [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:52 am ]
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Um....17 Advil? that has 2 meanings.

1) she is a complete and utter retard with no understanding of biochemistry.

2) she is a class 5 clinger. people who want to end their lives put a gun to their temple and fire or they jump off a bridge. They don't take 20 pills and then CALL SOMEONE! that's a cry for help, she plans on you coming to keep her alive if things had taken a turn for the worse.

whenever a person you know expresses suicidal tendencies you should suggest immediate psychological help. she acted on those urges, so you should honestly let someone know who can convince her to get the help she needs, be that a parent, teacher, etc. (dont know your age)
Author:  Maestro von Karajan [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:52 am ]
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Another thought that hasn't been touched upon. What does 17 Advils in your gut feel like? I've heard that it can burn holes in the lining of your stomach. She may have been in some extreme discomfort while you're trying to close her.
Author:  fox_theone [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:18 am ]
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Masak get this girl psychological help and take a step out of her life. Don't try to close her just let her go, you'll find other girls but the end result of closing this girl can be disastrous for you and her. Unless you are willing to stick with her and help her through it get out now.

An advil has 200mg of Ibuprofen. 17 advil has 3400mg. Maximum daily usage when a doctor sees fit is 3200mg. That's 3200mg spread over a day. This girl too 3400mg in one shot. The guy above me is right. It can lead to ulcers, intestinal bleeding, kidney failure, liver failure and all that bad stuff.

I'm a medical student so I can't give you medical advice but what I can do is warn you. If she is really doing these things she needs help.

I'll venture a guess that she wants attention but trust me. Having psychotic girls in your life is some seriously scary shit. Good luck bro.
Author:  vg05 [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:06 pm ]
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ABORT ABORT ABORT.....tell her you need to leave the galaxy to find the continuim transfunctioner....shibby
Author:  Scyth [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:31 pm ]
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If you want her that much, say to her "If you're about to die, lets go it style!"

Then prepare to move country!!!

It would take closer to 150-200 pills to kill you. So if you're up for a head ache in the morning, tell her you can go together and take 17 of whatever she took.

Once again you will need to move country the next day and hope she doesn't tell people how sick you are for screwing a girl you thought was dying.

Hope that helps.

If it were me I would jump up on her bed and start urinating mercilessly over everything in her room. She may not appreciate the funny side of it at first, but at least you will.
Author:  Silverox [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:02 pm ]
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I have been in your shoe before, unfortunately I was a big time AFC and decided to stay with her.
Run buddy, turn around and run. Push her out of your life and contain in her in the friend zone. Those kind of girls will rip your heart out for breakfirst.
Author:  Danzella [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:24 am ]
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I agree with what everyone else is saying, don't even bother trying to close this girl.

For future reference with girls that aren't emotionally unstable, a freeze out in this situation probably would have led to a close.
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