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Author:  redhammer [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Nice kiss gambit, rejection proof!

I developed my own kiss gambit some time ago, it works perfectly for me so far! It has a similar outcome like mystery's kiss gambit, so it's 100% rejection proof :)

What you do is:

PUA: You know what, I think I can trust you! here's my trust test: put your arms on my shoulders like this (kino her by taking and putting her arms on your shoulders, then you put your hands down on her waist) Now I want you to look me in the eyes and trust me (take one hand and gently brush her hair out of her face in the shape of a C and go in for the kiss like 90%)

now there are 3 scenarios:
1) HB goes in for the last 10% to kiss you (rather rare scenario)
2) HB doesn't go the 10% and stays in same position. In this case look her in the eyes, smile and stay in this position with her for about 10 seconds. Then back off and tell her: I see you trust me!
3) HB backs off as you go in for the kiss. In that case stop leaning in any further and tell her: Wow, did you honestly think I wanted to kiss you?! I just wanted to see if you can trust me! (slightly turn away and drop the conversation - she will immediately reinitiate by giving you kino and IOIs)

Author:  Mrmonk [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:57 pm ]
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i will play around with this i like it i dont usually use pre scripted routines anymore kinda just go with the flow and vibe with the girls but i like this little gambit so will try it out infield

Author:  haudas [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:49 am ]
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thats nice

Author:  a40536 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:19 am ]
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PUA: You know what, I think I can trust you! here's my trust test: put your arms on my shoulders like this (kino her by taking and putting her arms on your shoulders, then you put your hands down on her waist) Now I want you to look me in the eyes and trust me (take one hand and gently brush her hair out of her face in the shape of a C and go in for the kiss like 90%)
lol, i knew that dam green tshirt guy was a pua... if only i had of got into that road a few minutes or so quicker, i could have got to that fit hb before him... hahaha oh well, you win some you loose some, Anyway he used basicly the same kind of thing mentioned here, like i say i got into the road too late, so didnt see how he opened her, or even hear the routine but the arms round shoulder thing, then the kiss, then they sat down, chatted, at this point, i was paying no attention to them had wondered up the road a bit to approach a new target.. when i went to walk back down the road again after diff target, i saw her putting her number into his phone... he then got another kiss... so i would say with the right deliverly this works, infact like i saw some of the same kind of thing in action.....

Author:  redhead [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:23 pm ]
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nice little gambit! already field-tested it! ;) worked perfectly, although, i guess i could have done anything, because the girl i gamed was pretty into me...

Author:  M.Jesus [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:19 pm ]
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Seems legit.
But what if she asks how is that a trust test?

Author:  Visionxxxxxx [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:22 pm ]
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nice little gambit! already field-tested it! ;) worked perfectly, although, i guess i could have done anything, because the girl i gamed was pretty into me...
Exactly, the only reason why it worked was because she was into you already.

This is about the worst kiss routine I've ever heard of (no offense redhammer). Why would she kiss you with no attraction built? well maybe only in the following 3 cases; you look like brad pitt, she is bloody desperate, or she is DRUNK!

A 1 min kiss close is pointless as most of the time if she kisses it will not be because she is genuinely attracted to you. Im sure youve had some random drunk kisses in clubs and the girls run off and avoid you for the rest of the night, if it hasnt happened to you its probably happened to your friends. And there the poor sods are following these girls around the club thinking the girls are actually into them (meanwhile the girls are saying to their friends...hide me here he comes again!).

Author:  DiplomATA [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:10 pm ]
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Sorry Vision, but I think you missed the point...
Clearly you wouldn't use that within the first few minutes without attraction built... Attraction simply is precondition in order to go for the kiss, that's why he didn't mention that at all! I wouldn't open a girl like: 'Hey... I'd like to make the trust test with you! Put your arms around me!' :lol:
Anyways... Seen that work like a charm in field! You got her arms around you, got yours around her and then you can really go for the deep eye contact... Go in and see what happens... If she doesn't kiss you... well.. who cares? You can always use another routine later (as a matter of fact the trust test routine ain't bad at all because she'll be me more comfortable having your face close to hers!)...
And answer Jesus' question:
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But what if she asks how is that a trust test?
Well... just be creative! ;)
If she asks it when you tell her to put her arms around you just go like: 'Nevermind... you just failed!', give her negative body language and other IODs...
If she asks it AFTER the test (let's say she didn't lean in for the kiss) the you just go with the flow and create a line like: 'Well, you see, if somebody trusts someone, they have no problem with being close together! You being comfortable with me being close means that you trust me!' or whatever... just something like that! :)

Author:  Visionxxxxxx [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:12 am ]
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Sorry Vision, but I think you missed the point...
Clearly you wouldn't use that within the first few minutes without attraction built... Attraction simply is precondition in order to go for the kiss, that's why he didn't mention that at all! I wouldn't open a girl like: 'Hey... I'd like to make the trust test with you! Put your arms around me!' :lol:
Anyways... Seen that work like a charm in field! You got her arms around you, got yours around her and then you can really go for the deep eye contact... Go in and see what happens... If she doesn't kiss you... well.. who cares? You can always use another routine later (as a matter of fact the trust test routine ain't bad at all because she'll be me more comfortable having your face close to hers!)...
And answer Jesus' question:
Quote:
But what if she asks how is that a trust test?
Well... just be creative! ;)
If she asks it when you tell her to put her arms around you just go like: 'Nevermind... you just failed!', give her negative body language and other IODs...
If she asks it AFTER the test (let's say she didn't lean in for the kiss) the you just go with the flow and create a line like: 'Well, you see, if somebody trusts someone, they have no problem with being close together! You being comfortable with me being close means that you trust me!' or whatever... just something like that! :)
Got it, sorry I thought the OP was assuming this was an instant k-close right off the bat.

Author:  DiplomATA [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:04 am ]
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No harm done my friend... :)

Yeah that would have been quite a bit radical as an opener! :lol:

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