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Author:  Looser [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:50 am ]
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Hi,

This is my first post. I'm gaming for almost 2 months now, going out every night. I meet different kind of women and till now I didnt had any problems getting them home. The reason to get them home was pretty straight forward: cooking, movie, painting something together, music, simple stuff.
Now, i have this 20 year old girl, student at sociology and a passion for criminalistics.
At second date, I tried to get her home to assist me in cooking some sushi. The look was like "are you trying to fuck me?" and laughter. So this is the first time when a girl reacts like this like "i've seen this before, try better".
So, I want some help to find a way/reason, other then the ones listed above.

Thanks!

Author:  minsok [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:09 am ]
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The problem isn't that she figured you out. All the girls you've taken home know you wanted sex; they wanted it too. The problem is you didn't build enough arousal/attraction for her to go for it. It has nothing to do with your excuse to get her there, that's always irrelevant. If she wants to have sex with you, she'll follow you home even if you want to do something she's not really interested in. Focus on building arousal. Have you even made out/felt this girl up yet?

Author:  Looser [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:31 am ]
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Thanks for your answer man!
We made out, twice in clubs, and on each date.
Yesterday evening I isolated her very well; she was moaning on the bench like there was no tomorrow. So everything is in place but I think there can be 2 things that are blocking the final close: She's virgin and reticent to make this step OR I must to something more extraordinary before giving her the excuse to come to place. It might be the second one because I feel that on this part I didn't done the best that I could.
I'll keep you posted.

Author:  minsok [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:20 pm ]
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I still don't think your excuse to get her home matters. Don't treat her like a virgin, she desires sex just as much as any other girl and being 20, she's probably just waiting for a guy with the skills to make it good (and she's probably lying anyway. "I'm a virgin because the first guy, he didn't give me an orgasm. The second guy, we didn't even date, it was just one time, so that definitely doesn't count. The next four guys were all at the same time, but in a different country, sooo...)

Author:  Conker [ Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:36 pm ]
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Well if you feel you didn't do the best you could then you already know the answer :)

Sometimes you're on a roll and you get cocky, and you have to be reminded that everything always requires your best efforts.

Author:  Looser [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:41 am ]
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minsok, conker, thanks for your help.

In deed, the game was not that solid on the first 2 dates. Yesterday evening we had a lot of fun and finally we got @ my place without any comments.

So, as long she's into you, the reason doesn't matter at all and if she says no is because we need to work harder.

As a side note, yesterday I tried a lot of p&p both in conversation and sexually. I managed to build up the night very nice. The 2 steps in front, 1 back is such a strong weapon, you can easily push her to the limits of her social conditioning and she will do some crazy stuff on you.
Observation: excessive p&p tends to be viewed by the girl at some point as an not such a good neg.

Thanks guyz

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