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Author:  vizzy [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:55 am ]
Post subject:  Facebook or text game? Ideas?
Sup guys! Been a long time since I've logged back on here.

Recently I had this oneitis. Yeah that's right...
And I was trying to talk to her during some of my classes, but it seemed like I was always getting blocked by some factors- her friends pulling her away, showing up late to class, her not showing up to class etc etc.
Anyway on the final week I FINALLY got a chance to talk to this girl, we ended up chatting for about an hour - she was throwing me a shit load of IOI's - hinting she didn't have a boyfriend, asking me WAY too much shit about myself, heck she even hinted that she wanted me to take her number.
I ended up grabbing her number, and facebook, and told her I'd contact her later so we could "hang out together outside classes". She was sweet with the idea, all good.

I was so happy I number closed this girl, not because number closing is hard for me or anything, but the whole time I had this girl on my mind I had this negative voice in my head saying "man...it's not worth it, you gotta break through all these barriers and for what? a girl you hardly know? fuck that!"
And after all that negativity I found that the voice was wrong. And I succeeded.

My game is fairly good, however this girl is different to most girls I usually get with. I'm usually very sexual/flirty - when talking to girls. I think it's mainly because I see no relationship possibilities with those girls, whereas with this girl, from the time I did spend with her, she does seem like someone I'd get along with and I would be willing to get to know her better.
I sent her a text a few days later, and I made it VERY sexual. I found this was a bad idea because she could easily have misinterpreted my text. Most girls I knew would have replied to such a text, but this girl didn't. I don't want to think negatively but I think the text was inappropriate in the context in which I put it out.
Regardless, I don't think too much damage has been done. I will just probably contact her on facebook or try calling next time. (p.s I usually do call girls to arrange dates, but because of my schedule I can't arrange a date with this girl, not for the next two weeks.)

Now here come the questions:
Anyone who has done facebook game. Any tips? I don't really like facebook. So my facebook game is - zero.
I don't think I'll be texting again because of the first text I really just want to say to myself "that text was really inappropriate, but it's water under the bridge"

So I'll probably leave it to facebook. Or I could wait another week or so to call her...

But questions on facebook: if I'm talking to this girl, should I be sending her a personal message (the ones nobody could read?) or posting a message on her public wall?

What are some good ideas?
Author:  vizzy [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:43 am ]
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No love? :(
Author:  Flury [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:55 am ]
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ei dude, thats really nice for u to find someone you really like :)
i think you are right not to send more sms, at least not until u talk to her on facebook. anyway how much sexual was the sms? do u think she get a really bad ideia of you?
well i am not that much of a friend of facebook game either, but anyway...the trick is always the same, the pua must act like no one other man does.
try to use those question games and make some really creative answers, they usually have a nice outcome :o
or u can neg some pics...it depends on her facebook as well =X
Author:  Flury [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:56 am ]
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ei dude, thats really nice for u to find someone you really like :)
i think you are right not to send more sms, at least not until u talk to her on facebook. anyway how much sexual was the sms? do u think she get a really bad ideia of you?
well i am not that much of a friend of facebook game either, but anyway...the trick is always the same, the pua must act like no one other man does.
try to use those question games and make some really creative answers, they usually have a nice outcome :o
or u can neg some pics...it depends on her facebook as well =X
anyway best luck! the girls who really are worth it are the must troublesome, not that they are different, we just mess up cause of our feelings :o
Author:  ApStyle [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:51 pm ]
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Happend to me last week, I couldnt get this one girl off my mind! i scared me!! i was "out of control". i lost all my game it seemed, i was worried about texts i had sent to, thinking... should i send this.. i was "scared to loose" her. it seems that u have felt some of these..? in that fear you forced your mind to THINK game vs rolling with the interest she had already telegraphed in you and you went into what you Know best, sexual flirtatiousness... if she saw some of that in your initial convo then you should be good, the value is there. if not you may have to repair. the best way i go about this is acting as if it never happend. I am a FIRM believer in "a million first impressions"
remember in the movie Fight Club, where he discusses "Single Serving Friends"? well i treat everyone like that, anything that happens the initial night of meeting, as long as the meeting was brief, which yours was, about an hour, is all forgotten when they see you the next time especially if there has been a gap of time. ppl are to busy to worry about "creepers" therefor IF she has put u out of her mind, she has stopped thinking about u, then when you see her the next time its brand new, you adjust your game gage the situation and tone it down. as she talks to u she will see your not a creeper, that ur a normal classy dude who interests her, the text will be as if it never was. :) ON THE OTHER HAND, you can play off that text and be uber sexual and flirtatious and doing that in itself will validate the text which will validate you, as long as ur Value is up. :)
I FB game ALL THE TIME, ive taken a sense of pride in it. Im uber lovey dovey when i FB game, almost flamboyant, using words like darling and love and lovely and bumface. (Pua Mehow is great with flamboyant game.) Depending on the Value ive established with them, i decide where i post. on their wall or in a message. On wall is great if your value is high because YOU are on her wall and ppl see that and and thats social validation. something simple like "Darling, its been ages, where art thou?" or "Bestie, we need to go play!" adn leave it at that, like a couple of her pics, neg one or two and then dont worry about her. if she doesnt respond then thats HER LOSS, ten time out of ten i get the girl to say "HEY, yea lets get together soon!" or " Ive been SO busy, what are you up to?" (which is bogus any way) then from there i never answer the questions i just say, "my love, this weekend, were going dancing, come." or, "im going to to fly kites saturday, you?" (really open ended) shell say "O that sound like so much fun!" something along those lines. then reply "come, youll love it", or "what time are you picking me up?" then proceed to set it up from there or what ever. In FB game its awesome if its short blips at first, on liners, open ended questions, negs on pics. then as she responds u do accordingly.

Hope you enjoy the Novel hahah, good luck brotha
Author:  vizzy [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:23 am ]
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Hey thanks guys for the feedback.

Yeah I'll probably post something on her wall, short and sweet.

And the text seemed out of context yea, because when I met her first time around I didn't get nearly as sexual as I did in the text message. But in classes I can't be doing some hardcore kino and making out with her or something, especially not in front of some other girls I was seeing at the time. I had to be much more subtle.
Author:  Conker [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:42 am ]
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Wow you wrote that last post and the penny hasn't dropped still??

Phone call or face to face is where you make progress. Only txt or FB chat if they are the txty chatty type, and only when they txt you first.

Otherwise you make it clear that you prefer the phone or face to face whenever possible.

What do you think would work better - "Hey want to go to dinner" in a txt, or call her, ask her how she's doing, sound excited, make a joke about what happened... . Her mood is elevated, she'll be way more receptive to your offer at that point. Anything could happen in a phone call, you just got to risk it, and make it count, Yeah that may be why your'e scared of it but - news flash - that means it's something you can work on and get good at.
Author:  vizzy [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:55 am ]
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Wow you wrote that last post and the penny hasn't dropped still??

Phone call or face to face is where you make progress. Only txt or FB chat if they are the txty chatty type, and only when they txt you first.

Otherwise you make it clear that you prefer the phone or face to face whenever possible.

What do you think would work better - "Hey want to go to dinner" in a txt, or call her, ask her how she's doing, sound excited, make a joke about what happened... . Her mood is elevated, she'll be way more receptive to your offer at that point. Anything could happen in a phone call, you just got to risk it, and make it count, Yeah that may be why your'e scared of it but - news flash - that means it's something you can work on and get good at.
No idea what you mean by "the penny hasn't dropped"

I usually do CALL girls. When I do call it is very straightforward, to make plans. So I'll be on the phone for max 1-2 mins and then I have a day 2. BUT I can't do that this time because I don't know if I'll be free in 2 weeks from now.
I think I wrote already in the original post, I can't call because I can't arrange a date for the next 2 weeks due to my overloaded schedule. But I still wanted to keep in contact with her in a less formal way, thats where texting or facebook came into the picture.
And I'm not the type of guy to call a girl just to have chit-chat (idk unless we are dating or some shit).
Author:  Conker [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:31 am ]
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Oh I misread your last post, but in posts before that, you have been saying how you're very flirty in person - that's what I was referring to. It's very hard to flirt in text unless you already have a certain level of rapport, and even then it's not as possible to do it as it is with voice or face to face.

You say you're not the kind of guy to call, but that's because you're not sure what to do. Calling without making plans is REALLY GOOD, if she's already giving you IOIs, you can tell right away if she's happy to hear from you, in which case it's on, just talk about shit, and flirt and build comfort. You have a good excuse here cause you can't escalate things properly in class, so you can, for example, briefly say hi in class, and then call her that evening (as if seeing her reminded you of her) and ask how was uni. And then when she asks how you are, you can talk about how bloody busy you are, and then she will know you are too busy to ask her out somewhere just yet. Girls like to know these things (indirectly).

I say it's good to call without making plans, because as long as your tone of voice (mindset) is right, you can build comfort, and have her dying for you to ask her to go out somewhere with you eventually. At the opposite end of the scale, if you always just call to make plans, and there's no comfort to meet 1 on 1 yet, they will get sick of you asking them out and stop returning your calls.

It really comes down to your tone of voice when you ask how her day was, and that really comes from mindset. A guy with the right mindset can catch a woman's interest just with the way he says "hi", through tone and body language. Maybe you've heard this before but it's so fucking crucial, if you are worried about how it will go you gotta practice on other girls. Call female friends for a chat, or something, hit on girls below your standard, anything.


FB chat is very casual, I only use it to say hi, what's up, etc. in fact mostly when I use it it's because they messaged me first. Otherwise I really hate chat and text unless I've already built rapport, because it's such a loose connection - you can ask a REALLY COOL question that would start a really fun conversation topic - and they might not respond, and then you will never know whether they missed the message, or didn't want to respond - and if they did see it and you ask it again another time, it will be really wierd, like this is a really important topic to you or something. The ONLY times I've built comfort over txt or chat is when the girl was quite obviously choosing that as her comfort building stage, because once we swapped numbers or chat IDs, she would keep messaging me on that medium, and we'd end up having conversations that way. Not many girls are like that though.
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