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| Author: | Jayshine [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Help needed with "nontypical" HB9. |
Okay guys, so, I've been doing this stuff for a little while now, gotten a few numbers, k-close, and blah blah. Point being, you kind of gain a sense of knowing what or how a girl reacts and behaves. To me, this is not suppose to happen. Well, as my story in this case goes, threw me off my PUA saddle a little bit. My sister had a wedding Sunday, a nice tradition church wedding. I dress to stick out, but I honestly wasn't hawking around looking for chicks, to explain, I was a little sick and just going through the motions at the time. So, a couple of hours pass by, and I'm heading out to my car and I notice my nephew is standing there, I then reach down to him, telling him goodbye...then, boom, all of a sudden this gorgeous HB9-10, comes over to me, and says, "umm you must be uncle Kevin?" No, I'm uncle Jay, don't be disappointed, thinking back there isn't a uncle Kevin, aww, and that’s it. We just introduced, and she said, "I like your shirt", as I'm leaving. I was in a funny mood that day, just didn't care. Walked off not thinking a second thing about it. The next day, I get a phone call from my sis, she had just got back from a ballgame, and she explained, that a girl, from the wedding, who she knows very well, came up to her and gave my sister her number. Told her that I was the most handsome guy ever (where I live, it could be possible, lol). She went on to say that she is very interested in dating me, asked what sort of things I did, and a few basic questions, etc. My sister is telling me this, and my pick up mind is saying, what the fuck man you didn't build enough attraction, you can't # close without going for it, but it happened. This girl has got her act together too, that’s why I'm a little nervous. So guys, long story short, 2 days has past, and I have a amazing knockout's number. Any expert ideas on what’s going on here. My concepts are spinning right now, and my mindset is out of whack, basically, I feel like a kid in high school. I don't have any good experience with phone game is what I'm getting at, so, there's my situation. I got to initiate a good phone call to get a date out of this, but this is not what I'm used to. In cold approach, it all seems to work a lot different than this warm junk. |
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| Author: | aidenfuckingbaker [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:18 am ] |
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Allright man listen, Phone game is JUST like real game! #1 Rule is to listen #2 Rule is be in control of the convo #3 Rule timing is everything Same shit as real game. So be calm man talk about normal shit.. just not like your talking about the WEATHER.. it has to be FUN EXCITING and cool for her. Smile over the phone it helps you have a cool voice which is key. And remember YOU have to be the one who closes the conversation! Try to be the one who closes 90% of the time! If shes the one who ends the conversation it dupes your points a lil man, Call her at a time you KNOW shes going to pick up. Text her first perhaps. Because if you call and she doesnt answer you lose value just a lil. So call her at a time where you know shes probably not doing shit, cuz she WILL answer and shell be able to focus on you instead of having chatty annoyances in the background. If she does have side convos while shes on the phone with you DONT BE AFRAID to say listen just call me later! and when she asks why just say cuz i gotta go do somethin plus your talking to other people anyways! N thats it ! |
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| Author: | Conker [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:32 am ] |
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I bet you are thinking "Woah this it! Time to pull out the big guns!!" no, wrong mentality. What got her attracted to you? Was it your lines, game, etc. no, itwas the fact that she already saw what she liked, and then was blown away by the fact that you didn't fall all over her like every other guy. Now the situation is, she's just put herself out there and given her number to your sis to give to you. This is a nice gesture, but still it's not a completely ordinary thing. And as a guy you don't want to be "OMG girl!" and try and turn up the game like you're trying to attract her. Dude that's not what happened. She's attracted to you, you have the power. Now, you should act interested but curiuos. your mindset is simply this - everyone likes an attractive person of the opposite sex... but what's going on here? So you'll call her with that tone of voice... "Hello.... This is X, apparently you gave your number to my sister for me to call you..." you should sound mildly interested, amused, curiuos, who is this girl with the balls to just give her number to a guy's sister, she must be pretty out-going... okay let's get to know her... hmm... are you my kinda girl... well let's organise a date and see how it goes hey? Don't use those actual words, I'm just giving you a mindset. There is no need to have a long phone conversation at all. "She is interested in dating you", by her own admission - so there's no need to try and build attraction over the phone - the only thing you have to do is somehow transition from this "wierd" situation where youv'e had a nubmer thrusted at you, to meeting up - which is what I just typed out in the paragraph up there. Then all you have to do is set a time and place and meet. But then you can put your game into it. Choose a place where you can both have fun - eg. ice skating, is great opportunities for kino, for example. Markets or festival, you can browse things, joke with store owners, etc. DO NOT DO A DINNER DATE. they fucking suck. It just becomes 20 questions, and she thinks you're boring - and you're not. Believe me, I know, I'm not a boring guy, I'm a nudist, I get involved in crazy parties, I do nude modeling life drawing for Hens' parties... and the only dinner date I did, she didn't want to see me again, she definintely thought I was boring. Does that mean I can't hold a conversation? No - I have to do a lot o fthat as part of my work, and I've pulled girls with conversation- but there is always a context, a framework of fun. if it's "Let's sit down and talk about EACH OTHER" that's fucked, and not natural. |
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| Author: | Jayshine [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:57 am ] |
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Thanks a lot Conker! You cleared away most of the smoke. You hit the nail on the head when you said my mindset has fallen in the wrong place, because thats the first thing I noticed. All the self help and inner game work I do just made me think I could always keep it together, but we are not perfect. The instant this happened it clouded my usually good mindset, and turned it back into a rafc formed one. Pick up is a long drawn out journey nothing's gonna always go as planned. |
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| Author: | WorkEthic [ Mon May 03, 2010 4:07 pm ] |
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I like a lot of what Conker said... I just know when I got her on the phone, she would obviously get teased about giving out her number so easily: "..so you just give your number out to every gorgeous guy you meet, huh?" "..you're really lucky I decided to call you, 3 other girls at that wedding slipped my sister their number for me too, but I actually liked your name the most, so, ya know...congrats." Not exactly like that, but definitely have some fun with the situation about how this all happened...it's funny (like everything else in life). Good luck pimp. |
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