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Author:  stinger 13 [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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So I dated the girl a year ago and then she left to work in another country. She is back now, and we went out a few times, beach, coffee, movies, and I see her at uni every other day. There seems to be a decent connection. However how do I make sure I don't get friend zoned, over the next few weeks while writing exams (we basically study together) and seeing her every other day and talking to her. Other than that, any ideas on where to take this girl out so we can go kino, and set up a foundation for closing the deal within a few days after?
Author:  stuckupcurlyguy [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:20 pm ]
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I'm pretty young but I'd say freeze her out, try to talk to her as little as possible till after the exams then take her out on one of these dates somewhere different, and caveman it. You're already going heaps of places with her you should be kino-ing already eh. The freeze will stop you being friend zoned, then try this http://www.puaratings.com/articles/ciaran-shock-and-awe
it looks like genius.

Oh and for the date go somewhere unexpected, like a freaking Star Trek convention, it don't matter as long as you're together. :P

What do you guys think.
Author:  Tal0n [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:27 pm ]
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I would say it's not neccessary to freeze her out, as there's no bad behavior yet to punish. And the wild date thing isn't particularly neccessary either, especially while you're busy studying for exams :) Instead, USE the study dates.

Studing for exams was always my favorite excuse to kino and escalate, even before I knew about PUA. If you're studying together, just develop a sound reason why you need to study at your place (or, insert prefered kino locale here), and then begin the work of seduction.

Sit close, put your arm around her incidentally as you lean over to look at something on her page, make a sexualized joke out of whatever you're studying (even if you have to look over it ahead of time and prepare some stuff).

Begin to create distraction and build a conversation that takes you away from studying. Perhaps make sure you have some props to talk about in your room--even an interesting book will suffice. Once the focus on studying has gone away you can begin the seduction as usual.

I don't know if I was too general, or if that answers your question sufficiently ased on your circumstances, but let me know, because I do have some more thoughts on it.
Author:  stinger 13 [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:59 pm ]
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We sit in a library of a somewhat public place a hall. We sit at a small table across from each other. I don't think freezing her out would actually be best though as we do seem to have a decent connection and I don't wanna have to rebuild it in 2 weeks time. She seems friendly though and smiling and making jokes allthe time. That pretty much sums it up. Crazy date is a good idea after exams but now it's just unneccesary as we do spend enough time together every other day.
Author:  Tal0n [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:17 pm ]
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If you want to make this happen, get out of the library. Get to your place, or hers, however you can. Make something up about why you have to be at your place. You're waiting for something to be delivered, your roomate forgot his key, something! Anything! Or, at the very least, try this: start at a louder location, close to where you live. A coffee shop, preferably, or a park. Start there and when the conditions become less than accomodating (too noisy, too windy, too cold, etc) say that you two should go back to your place. Have hot cocoa ready to boil, tea, coffee, beer, wine, something. But get her to your place to study. And then don't study.
Author:  stinger 13 [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:35 pm ]
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What ioi's should I be seeing just before we go kino? That does sound like a decent plan. Williams then delivery package to be delivered and meanwhile we watch some Russian comedy shit!I shall trythat on Wednesday as I do have two exams tmorrow !
Author:  Tal0n [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:07 pm ]
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Never wait for IOIs to kino. Kino should be a part of your everyday interactions. As for the *escalation* of kino, the only IOI you require is that she accepts your previous kino. Start at the shoulder. IF she does not recoil, then the arm. Then the hand. Then the thigh. If she does not reject you, move forward. A girl accepting your kino is IOI enough.
Author:  stinger 13 [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:13 pm ]
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ok total fail on my part lol, got her to go to williams for coffee and watch some funny shit, then since it was too loud, I offered to go home with me so she can give me an opinion on my art, (I paint and so does she) she liked my place, commented on my art, (seemed to gimme the truth) and we hang out for about 10 minutes but the moment just didn't seem rite to kiss her, there was the art and dog distraction created. Then she offered to go see her art (highschool days) and drove around and walked around her high school and came back to the library. I'm thinking to take her out to a park tomorrow and just man up this time. Shit any suggestions or am I just a complete tool.? lol
Author:  stinger 13 [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:17 pm ]
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i'm thinking just use the creativity story she told me where she used to put cheat notes in her stockings. something along the lines of...so I found out, you're quite creative with cheating, are you just as creative when it comes to kissing? I think I can ran a simple test to find out! ?? She seems to reply and share stuff/experiences about her life when I tell her mine, and she bought me coffee today as well.
Author:  Tal0n [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:05 pm ]
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Well, it sounds like you're in a good place right now!

Good job on having her at your place and then leaving, actually--now she'll be comfortable to go back without feeling an obligation to physicality or any general uneasiness being in someone else's space. Next time, escalate the sexuality of the conversation. Make it more suggestive so that by the time you get to your place there is an overt SPAM of sexuality. Then go for the kiss. I don't even think that set up for the kiss is particularly neccessary. Just a simple, Mystery Method, "Would you like to kiss me?" Or my own, "How would you feel if I kissed you right now?"
Author:  stinger 13 [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:52 pm ]
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Aite, I'm so fuckin pissed at myself. Gotta get my balls together and kino her already. Based on what u said, shit seems to be going well then. I'm stressing less now. But I guess I should do this tomorrow soon then, and not take too long. Fuk lol. Thnx for advice, I'll keep ya posted.
Author:  mcsa [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:02 am ]
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If it helps you, however hard to do as it comes to an attitude, you SHOULD stop thinking like " omg I wanna her , wannabe with her, she's so precious to me". She may take you as a AFC or Needy one since what you think is expressed in ur BL even if you can't see it naked eye you feel it subconsciously ans so does she. So be an Alpha Male and think " There's lot of girls, c'mon, I can have so many others.. doesn't matter if she reject I will do her next time" Just keep muted your feelings and it will make you act like a MAN WITH GUTS. Do not hesitate whether to kiss her or not or whatever. And if you kiss( or try to kiss) her with a hesitation she will feel it and take u as a coward which is DLV. And again do not think about too much things just let it go and do what you want to do. And if you want to touch her just simply do it with a confidence.
Author:  stinger 13 [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:35 am ]
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Ure rite that kinda helps and yea I gotta think like I'm bigger than life, cause they do feel it. True, thanks!
Author:  mcsa [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:20 am ]
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Of course it's good to use routines and the rest of let's call it "tricks". But the thing is that it's extremely important HOW you use it. I mean HOW you say it, ur BL. You will be weirdo saying routines if u don't feel comfortable with this and confident about. So don't make the crucial mistake and first become confident about relationships and interactions with women. Find yourself in this issue. U need to find out what's good for you if you will be rather sweet guy or macho man etc. And then use some routines. But on ur level better try just a simple things like push and pull, negs and I you find some routines easy u can do it. Personally I think it's better to be honestly shy than dishonestly confident. In first case they will feel u ain't pretend.

I don't know how ur situation looks like. Anyway if she want you so u just need to escalate ur touch. Take her ur the man. Girls like being undecided and not knowing whether they want sth or not. That's why they DESIRE confident and decided man. That would be the the best day of her life telling her friends " He just took me from a stage.
And if you want to keep her by you. you just need to fuck her and be at least little dominant.

Cheers

PS I know it's not easy. Every art isn't easy. But once you nail a skill you would feel liak a GOD.
Author:  Twelvegone [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:08 pm ]
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The idea's here are good.
But remember, she wants to pass her exams, make sure this doesn't go on for to long otherwise you will suffer and regret it in the future.
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