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Author:  BlahBlahPlayer [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Text Game Feedback Wanted
Hello, I was wondering if I could get some critiques on the following text game I ran today. I think I did alright, but as I'm a novice, I don't know what I don't know. All help appreciated.


Me:

Hey

5:19pmHer:

hey

5:19pmMe:

Hey sorry my phone went crazy, I think I sent you like 3 text messages all the same.

5:20pmHer:

i didn't get any of them..

5:20pmMe:

All the better then.

Anyway, it was really strange, I was watching TV last night and that movie came on "Love Actually."

This had been part of our conversation on a 1st date to a movie (know, I know..) four days prior to this conversation.

5:21pmHer:

hehe. that's so random

5:22pmMe:

Yeah it was pretty random. It made me think of our Valentines movie. I think we may have to watch that one again, we talked through most of it. ;);)

5:23pmHer:

love actually??

5:23pmMe:

Valentines Day. :):)

5:23pmHer:

haha. i don't think it's that good

5:24pmMe:

I think you were just too busy interrogating me!

5:25pmHer:

sorry. i didn't mean to

i just don't want it to be awkward

5:25pmMe:

Well, I'll let you make it up. Listen: I am going to go for Ethiopean food on Wednesday, you should come.

5:25pmHer:

wednesday? with your friends??

5:26pmMe:

No I'm gonna hang out with my friends this weekend. This would just be you and me.

5:26pmHer:

when?

5:27pmMe:

I'll pick you up at 7.

5:27pmHer:

cuz i have a paper due the next day

i try

oh on i have work till 8

6 to 8pm

5:28pmMe:

I suppose 8 isn't too late.

5:29pmHer:

that means i have to finish my paper before that

:):)

5:30pmMe:

Haha, you seem smart enough, shouldn't be too hard. But you never know. ;);)

5:31pmHer:

i will let you know. :P:P

5:32pmMe:

See you then. :D:D

5:32pmHer:

hopefully. wish me good luck then

5:33pmMe:

Bon chance.

That's good luck in french.

I gotta go now, see you.

5:35pmHer:

later
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:38 am ]
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Maybe a bit of background on the girl?

You said you've been on a date with her before? watched a movie or something?

Any kino? K-close? anything?

Other than that..

You did lead the interaction which is good. when she put up the shit tests, you plowed through which is the PUA move.. So good. However. Text game BREEDS flakes.

I mean that, I love text game, and use it frequently. but when it comes to progressing the interaction, making plans to hang (i also don't like using the work date, because generally the formality of it can freak a girl out), I would never use text game, it is way to unreliable. It is simply fluff. its good to neg, and be playful, and be cute etc... But, if you're making plans, stick to doing it in person, or on the phone itself.

Thats my 2 cents.

Good luck!
Author:  BlahBlahPlayer [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:51 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Maybe a bit of background on the girl?

You said you've been on a date with her before? watched a movie or something?

Any kino? K-close? anything?

Other than that..

You did lead the interaction which is good. when she put up the shit tests, you plowed through which is the PUA move.. So good. However. Text game BREEDS flakes.

I mean that, I love text game, and use it frequently. but when it comes to progressing the interaction, making plans to hang (i also don't like using the work date, because generally the formality of it can freak a girl out), I would never use text game, it is way to unreliable. It is simply fluff. its good to neg, and be playful, and be cute etc... But, if you're making plans, stick to doing it in person, or on the phone itself.

Thats my 2 cents.

Good luck!
Hey coffee, thanks for getting back to me so fast. I appreciate what you said about the text game, I can really see how that's true. I tried not to have it work out that way, but she didn't return two calls to her phone (she has no voicemail.)

For background I'll give you a mini field report of last Thursday: I met her through mutual friends. She's an HB8 just slightly fresh-off-the-boat-Chinese (not too bad though, but a slight language thing.) Anyway, we talked over facebook, I suggested we get coffee, but she came back that we should go to a movie. Went to a movie but she talked to me through the WHOLE fucking thing, like we were getting looks from people sitting behind us. It was clear that a movie wasn't that place we should've been. I got great kino through the whole thing though, great eye contact, built comfort and rapport, etc. When I dropped her off I pulled a hand-kiss. For all intents and purposes it was a good date I think.

Fast forward to today; my question is:

If I do get flaked on, which I'm going to be realistic and give myself 50/50 odds here of that happening (it seems like she's sabotaged it to happen/not happen at her discretion), what are my counters/recourse to that? How can I prevent this from happening in the future?
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:45 am ]
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Yeah, The sad truth is, lot of girls will flake. at one point and time, all girls will flake. and it's an IOD, but it's not end of the world. So many factors going on.

The way she phrased "Okay 8 it is, see you then"----->"hopefully we'll see"

it's giving herself an out.

All you can do is have a super solid frame, and even tighter game, and give her a reason not to flake.

Now, sometimes I like to frame those sorts of things, as

"I'm going to (this restaraunt) you should come with", or "feel free to tag along" (probably not for a restaraunt)


Now also, I will note that PERSONALLY, I don't do dinner dates, or pay for anything for a girl unless i've slept with her.

This isn't a MUST USE rule, but i've found that you get the same results without giving up your money.
Author:  BlahBlahPlayer [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:51 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Yeah, The sad truth is, lot of girls will flake. at one point and time, all girls will flake. and it's an IOD, but it's not end of the world. So many factors going on.

The way she phrased "Okay 8 it is, see you then"----->"hopefully we'll see"

it's giving herself an out.

All you can do is have a super solid frame, and even tighter game, and give her a reason not to flake.

Now, sometimes I like to frame those sorts of things, as

"I'm going to (this restaraunt) you should come with", or "feel free to tag along" (probably not for a restaraunt)


Now also, I will note that PERSONALLY, I don't do dinner dates, or pay for anything for a girl unless i've slept with her.

This isn't a MUST USE rule, but i've found that you get the same results without giving up your money.
I'm wondering if I should follow up? "Are you tagging along tomorrow, need to confirm in case I need to find somebody else to go.." ??

If she does flake I've got the old "Oh, that's okay, I can find somebody else. I'm waiting through to see how you make it up to me."
Author:  Smartbomb [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:27 am ]
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Quote:
Text game BREEDS flakes.
Agreed. Put down the kiddy-keyboard and go meet this girl IRL. Text is for children.
Author:  BlahBlahPlayer [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:29 am ]
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Update update update, stop the presses. She didn't flake on the date and I kiss closed. I used the text game to remind her how funny I am yesterday to get her ready for today. Anyway, lesson learned: I will NOT NOT NOT use text game anymore except for flirting. It's just a total waste for anything but that and I think I got away lucky this time. It's phone for me from now on.

Oh, for the kiss closed I used that one.. whoever posted this is a genius.. where you pretend there's something in your eye and when she gets close you kiss her. Fucking brilliant.

Now what do I do?
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:15 am ]
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Congrats on the K-close. Must have been pretty suave.

I'm glad you agree with us on the text side of things. It's GREAT for flirting. Not so much for getting things done.

What do you do now? keep gaming. Don't give her all the cards yet though. Talk to her, set up a day 2 or something, but don't get all AFC(not that you would.. just a reminder.), and don't telegraph ALL of your interest. Keep her guessing. Keep her interested. Invite her over, and don't kiss her right away, wait a bit, and confuse her, or do something like that. Keep the attraction high, and the alpha higher.. Wait a day or so before inviting her on the day 2 maybe... idk your call though.


Doing good work i think. Keep us posted.
Author:  BlahBlahPlayer [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:44 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Congrats on the K-close. Must have been pretty suave.

I'm glad you agree with us on the text side of things. It's GREAT for flirting. Not so much for getting things done.

What do you do now? keep gaming. Don't give her all the cards yet though. Talk to her, set up a day 2 or something, but don't get all AFC(not that you would.. just a reminder.), and don't telegraph ALL of your interest. Keep her guessing. Keep her interested. Invite her over, and don't kiss her right away, wait a bit, and confuse her, or do something like that. Keep the attraction high, and the alpha higher.. Wait a day or so before inviting her on the day 2 maybe... idk your call though.


Doing good work i think. Keep us posted.
Thanks Coffee, I appreciate all the feedback. Keep it coming.

Oh, just to log-in how this one went. I actually took the initiative and was clever enough to solidify a third date next Tuesday at 7:30. Oh, also, I felt bad, but I ended this date early. I didn't want to give her too much so I said I had to meet a friend - that was at about 9:30 and she was hugely disappointed and kept grilling me on what I was doing and where I was going and why. I think that's a good sign. Also, some light text-based flirting afterwards. Yep, about it.
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