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Author:  Alsex [ Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Closing, but staying out of the friend zone
Whenever I number close, it seems they are in the mindset of me as a friend.

Like for example:
me: "You have so much energy, I like that!" *kino
Her: Thanks :)
me: "Let me grab your number, is it 604 or 778?" (Area code number close)
Her "778 blah blah"
me: "Great! I'll give you a call sometime"

But if I give a callback, it seems to end up in the friend zone. I think this might be because of my mid game? Maybe I need to use more sexual inuendo?

What I've been told is to say "Are you single?" after the cold read of "so much energy" but after only talking to them for 5-15 minutes after a cold approach it just doesn't seem proper, or is it just me?
Author:  #1 Jish [ Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:28 pm ]
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in my opinion it sounds like you can approach and open next you would need to work on your kino and sexual esculation
Author:  Alsex [ Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:43 pm ]
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in my opinion it sounds like you can approach and open next you would need to work on your kino and sexual esculation
I definitely need to work on my kino. It feels so awkward touching girls but I am working on that.

Sexual escalation, where can I find some good reading on that? I'll search though
Author:  [Vegas] [ Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:28 pm ]
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I definitely need to work on my kino. It feels so awkward touching girls but I am working on that.
Situations are only as awkward as you make them. I obviously don't know you are person, but as for me, I am naturally a touchy person when I talk or converse. This means that when first meeting someone, the frame I set in their mind is that I am touchy... this means that through out the night, when I initiate kino intentionally, it's not awkward or out of the blue. In fact, it's expected since I am conversing with them and that's how they perceived me when first meeting me.

The key is to be upbeat and touchy in the beginning so later on it's not awkward. If you NEVER touch at all through out the night and then all of the sudden try to get touchy, that's when it becomes weird or unexpected - it catches them off guard which may lead to hesitation to comply or defensiveness.

Be hands-on from the start and it becomes congruent and consistent with the frame they have of you in their mind. They are okay with you touching since that's just how you are.
Author:  Alsex [ Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:30 pm ]
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I definitely need to work on my kino. It feels so awkward touching girls but I am working on that.
Situations are only as awkward as you make them. I obviously don't know you are person, but as for me, I am naturally a touchy person when I talk or converse. This means that when first meeting someone, the frame I set in their mind is that I am touchy... this means that through out the night, when I initiate kino intentionally, it's not awkward or out of the blue. In fact, it's expected since I am conversing with them and that's how they perceived me when first meeting me.

The key is to be upbeat and touchy in the beginning so later on it's not awkward. If you NEVER touch at all through out the night and then all of the sudden try to get touchy, that's when it becomes weird or unexpected - it catches them off guard which may lead to hesitation to comply or defensiveness.

Be hands-on from the start and it becomes congruent and consistent with the frame they have of you in their mind. They are okay with you touching since that's just how you are.
Perfect! That makes 100% sense. That's exactly what I do, I don't kino at the beginning and try to kino my way midway and it gets weird.

I never noticed that, thanks! Pos rep for you man!
Author:  [Vegas] [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:09 am ]
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Glad I could help you out. If you have any other questions, feel free to shoot me a PM.
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