PUA Forum :: Made out w/ girl on couch, but couldn't f-close

or.. its a shit test. she wants to see how bad you really want her and if you can wait til next time then its on.
besides, how old are you guys? sounds like 14-15.. what girl rides a bike nowadays? :X

Well, she had to leave in 20 minutes. She probably didn't want sex with the stress pressuring her.

Just close her the next time - when she's not busy and can stay the whole night or for at least a few hours.

Don't try to close chicks that are in a hurry. Wait for a better opportunity.

I always try to get the kissing outta the way as soon as the chick is at my house if I haven't kissed her already. It just makes the whole go a lot fucking better. 'Phewp, ok, I like her and she likes me too. Ok, I can do this'

Honestly, whoever said you were 14-15, I thought the same thing!! But maybe a little more like 16-17ish. Big ish. Butta..Ya She likes you..enough. The most imprtant part of this next little while is how the interaction is before you see her, and how the first hour-hour and a half goes once you do see her. If you can go on a roll and just have things flowin then you got this in the bag and it'll be no porblem. Just don't fucking get all warped out cause a girl didn't put out once. Relax. no worries.

Yo i just used this neg on facebook chat

"Wow, are you a poet?" HA

Shiiet she said that. I didn't read everything..

When girls say stuff like "ohh I'm pretty busy over the next two weeks" I sometimes come back with "Ya me too. Hows next month for ya?" It lets them know that you're got gonna be brushed off. Gets a laugh usually and it usually makes them go "Well actually I'm free..."

Just give it some time, chill with her, talk, but don't let it just phizz, but don't push too much either. If she sends you a flirty text message maybe ignore it for a couple hours and send something nice back. Take control and say after a week or so, "so hey! When're we gonna go bowling? You promised me you'd go I was so excited" and she'll say "I never pormised you he he' and then, I don't know, just play it. Remember that you're King, shes Queen. You're boss. YOU CAN DO IT! Lol. Also, remember that you've already been intimate before so just keep that in mind and it'll help your confidence. Dude I wish I knew you and this chick so i can give an indepth analysis but I dont, so I can't.

Good Luck! I want a progress report!

I agree with you, you are working too hard for this and you are not making her work hard enough. You need to freeze her ass out, and see how she responds. Sounds like she is gaming you big time. If she is gaming you, that's good, because it means she is interested in you. But now you have to freeze her out.

If she responds to the freeze out by contacting you more then you're still in it. If she responds to the freeze out by not contacting you, then forget about her.

The best advice I can give is that you should be working at least 5 girls at the same time so that you don't have to put all your energy into one girl.

Author:	theizz [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:06 am ]
Post subject:	Made out w/ girl on couch, but couldn't f-close
Hi I'm hoping to get some feedback on what happened on this date and what to do next. I met this girl online about a week or 2 ago. We went out for tea, and then decided to go from there to lunch. Everything seemed to go well, but couldn't get her back to my place. She said she had to get ready for her new job that was starting the next day. She texted me the next day after work and we set up a date to watch a movie at my place. When we got together for our movie date we cuddled up on the couch. I was going to kiss her, but sensed she was shying away. So I did a little bit of a take away, and eventually she ended up kissing me. We finished the movie and then ended up laying on top of each other on the couch while kissing and talking. After a few minutes of this she said she needed to leave in 20 minutes before all the drunk people get out of the bars because she was riding her bike home. We continued kissing, but every time I tried to grab some boob she would kind of intercept my hand and lock fingers with me. After 20 minutes rolled around she said she had to go. I kissed her some more and gave her a little back massage. She said something along the lines of "that's making me want to stay". But then she gave me a big kiss and got up and left. I'm totally confused. Was this LMR? Does she like me or was she blowing me off? What's the best course of action for me to take at this point? Thanks

Author:	Little Panda [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:38 am ]
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Well, she had to leave in 20 minutes. She probably didn't want sex with the stress pressuring her. Just close her the next time - when she's not busy and can stay the whole night or for at least a few hours. Don't try to close chicks that are in a hurry. Wait for a better opportunity.

Author:	slimsta [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:28 pm ]
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or.. its a shit test. she wants to see how bad you really want her and if you can wait til next time then its on. besides, how old are you guys? sounds like 14-15.. what girl rides a bike nowadays? :X

Author:	theizz [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:52 pm ]
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Quote: or.. its a shit test. she wants to see how bad you really want her and if you can wait til next time then its on. besides, how old are you guys? sounds like 14-15.. what girl rides a bike nowadays? :X We're in our 20s. A lot of people in Chicago ride their bikes.

Author:	theizz [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:49 pm ]
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Quote: Well, she had to leave in 20 minutes. She probably didn't want sex with the stress pressuring her. Just close her the next time - when she's not busy and can stay the whole night or for at least a few hours. Don't try to close chicks that are in a hurry. Wait for a better opportunity. Well she was over for like 4 and a half hours. We talked, then had dinner, then watched a movie, and then started making out. I feel like maybe I didn't escalate quick enough. Instead of kissing and talking we should have been starting heavily making out. And when it didn't get to that stage I think she felt like she may as well leave. Otherwise, why not just stay over? I think I learned from my mistake, but I know Mystery says you rarely get a second chance to close the same girl. Is that true? I feel like she knows what I wanted, and if I call her again its only because I want to pick up where we left off. What's the best way to get another opportunity at this point?

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Author:	loyalknicksfan [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:02 pm ]
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i had the same exact problem with a girl. after the third time we made out on my couch she did the last minute resistance thing. Fourth time i was trying to get in her pants on my couch she wouldn't let me... then i just asked her what the deal is.. she said, "lets go to ur room",then the f close couldn't get any easier. try dragging her in ur room first.. most girls prefer doing it the first time with a guy on a bed... i really dont know why, just the whole story of "sex on a couch" has a bad vibe to it when she is in "last minute" resistance mode. p.s don't even ask her to go into ur room. grab her hand after and take her to ur bedroom.. if she asks anything be like "we need to go somewhere a little more comfortable." then if u do what you were doing on the couch and in a more intimate setting she'll put out easier..

Author:	_Lothario_ [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:40 am ]
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She has standards. That's it. She likes you. If she didn't she wouldn't agree to come to your place after your first date. If you're really interested in the girl hang out with her some more. If you're having any physical intimacy such as making out, you're not in the friend zone. Sex will eventually happen. Stop worrying about it. You having sex with her shouldn't be the goal. Sex is the result of completing a goal, and that goal is to gain trust and attraction. Don't look at this like a same night lay. She's not looking for just a hookup.

Author:	theizz [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:05 pm ]
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Thanks. Its still hard for me to recognize when a girls blowing me off and when she's not. I did get a flirty text from her the next day, so I guess I'll hang with her again, and this time I'll drag her into my bedroom after we start making out.

Author:	theizz [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:52 am ]
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Ok so I just called her and now I'm really confused. We talked for a few minutes and then I asked her if she likes bowling. She said "Yeah, why?". I told her I've had a craving to go, and she said "Then we shall". But then she said something along the lines of "My next 2 weeks are booked". WTF? I would think if a girl was interested in me she'd find time within the next 2 weeks to hang out. Am I right? Anyway I ended the conversation and told her to give me a shout if she wants to go some time. This is confusing because she texted me a flirty text message yesterday, as if she's interested and wanted to keep in contact. Plus all the making out we did on our date. I'm kind of thinking of forgetting about her and moving on. What do you guys think?

Author:	sacredstoryteller [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:48 am ]
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I always try to get the kissing outta the way as soon as the chick is at my house if I haven't kissed her already. It just makes the whole go a lot fucking better. 'Phewp, ok, I like her and she likes me too. Ok, I can do this' Honestly, whoever said you were 14-15, I thought the same thing!! But maybe a little more like 16-17ish. Big ish. Butta..Ya She likes you..enough. The most imprtant part of this next little while is how the interaction is before you see her, and how the first hour-hour and a half goes once you do see her. If you can go on a roll and just have things flowin then you got this in the bag and it'll be no porblem. Just don't fucking get all warped out cause a girl didn't put out once. Relax. no worries. Yo i just used this neg on facebook chat "Wow, are you a poet?" HA

Author:	theizz [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:55 am ]
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Quote: I always try to get the kissing outta the way as soon as the chick is at my house if I haven't kissed her already. It just makes the whole go a lot fucking better. 'Phewp, ok, I like her and she likes me too. Ok, I can do this' Honestly, whoever said you were 14-15, I thought the same thing!! But maybe a little more like 16-17ish. Big ish. Butta..Ya She likes you..enough. The most imprtant part of this next little while is how the interaction is before you see her, and how the first hour-hour and a half goes once you do see her. If you can go on a roll and just have things flowin then you got this in the bag and it'll be no porblem. Just don't fucking get all warped out cause a girl didn't put out once. Relax. no worries. Yo i just used this neg on facebook chat "Wow, are you a poet?" HA So you think she's interested even though she said she's too busy to go out for the next 2 weeks?

Author:	theizz [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:05 pm ]
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Quote: Shiiet she said that. I didn't read everything.. When girls say stuff like "ohh I'm pretty busy over the next two weeks" I sometimes come back with "Ya me too. Hows next month for ya?" It lets them know that you're got gonna be brushed off. Gets a laugh usually and it usually makes them go "Well actually I'm free..." Just give it some time, chill with her, talk, but don't let it just phizz, but don't push too much either. If she sends you a flirty text message maybe ignore it for a couple hours and send something nice back. Take control and say after a week or so, "so hey! When're we gonna go bowling? You promised me you'd go I was so excited" and she'll say "I never pormised you he he' and then, I don't know, just play it. Remember that you're King, shes Queen. You're boss. YOU CAN DO IT! Lol. Also, remember that you've already been intimate before so just keep that in mind and it'll help your confidence. Dude I wish I knew you and this chick so i can give an indepth analysis but I dont, so I can't. Good Luck! I want a progress report! Thanks. I'm going to try what you said. She just texted me today apologizing that she was "out of it" on the phone last night because she was tired. I definitely don't want her stringing me along. Its hard for me emotionally (being a beginner), but I'm going to try really hard to take control. Thanks again. I'll let you know if anything comes of it.

Author:	Clozer [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:21 am ]
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I agree with you, you are working too hard for this and you are not making her work hard enough. You need to freeze her ass out, and see how she responds. Sounds like she is gaming you big time. If she is gaming you, that's good, because it means she is interested in you. But now you have to freeze her out. If she responds to the freeze out by contacting you more then you're still in it. If she responds to the freeze out by not contacting you, then forget about her. The best advice I can give is that you should be working at least 5 girls at the same time so that you don't have to put all your energy into one girl.

Author:	theizz [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:46 pm ]
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Quote: I agree with you, you are working too hard for this and you are not making her work hard enough. You need to freeze her ass out, and see how she responds. Sounds like she is gaming you big time. If she is gaming you, that's good, because it means she is interested in you. But now you have to freeze her out. If she responds to the freeze out by contacting you more then you're still in it. If she responds to the freeze out by not contacting you, then forget about her. The best advice I can give is that you should be working at least 5 girls at the same time so that you don't have to put all your energy into one girl. It sounds like a freeze out makes sense. The thing is though she already texted me the day after the phone call (yesterday). I haven't responded yet, but should I wait for her to contact me a second time before responding, or should I just respond to this one in a day or so?

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