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Author:  Dj. [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Failed Phone Close, please give feedback :)
So today while I was buying perfume, this HB8(+) came to help me cause she was a specialist on the particular brand. I didnt need any help because I always get the same but we started talking etc. Turned out she was half-greek (i m greek) and we talked for a few minutes and it was good. At some point, and while the talking was still fine, I told her I should pay cause I have to catch a flight (true, I was leaving the same day) which backfired cause after that she was trying to find me a counter to pay.. I payed, we both said we were happy to meet etc, and then I said a total afc line like "listen, maybe you should give me your number and I ll call you next time I come here" which was totally bad but her reaction was even worse, she said something like "Oh thats alright" (i dont remember exactly) but it was like she was saying "yea whatever dont even bother trying that.." - My reaction was even worse, I just smiled turned and left...

Any feedback please?? What went THAT wrong??

Thanks!
Author:  Energy_ [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:57 pm ]
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Are you sure you and this girl really had a GOOD connection?
It cant be to uncommon that you both are part greek.

What Im sayin is, if she wasnt very attracted to you right there
she wasnt gonna give you her number. If you started talking to her in a bar about parfume it would have been a diffrent story. But since she was working.. not.

I was buying clothes in this store like a year ago, and got on really good with girl helped pick out new jeans. She was asking werther I was goin out that night.. so I got her number so she could "show me around" since I wasnt from roundthere.

If a working-girl isnt SUPERcharmed by your the first minute, you need a good reason to get her number. Then take it from there.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:31 pm ]
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The way you asked for her # was not AFCish,it was ok. But like another poster said,did you really have a good connection with the target? Plus,the girl was just being polite-that's all. She's like a hired gun(or a hooker or exotic dancer),paid to be polite in order to get a sale.
3rd.ly,I realy don't see why she wouldn't give her #,especially knowing that you are not from there,and you're leaving. Typically,whether a girl is feeling you or not,she'd most likely # exchange knowing that she may not see you. Those are called throw-away #'s which never lead to anything. You may call her and she'd just not answer. Bottom line,there were no attraction(you didn't attract her).
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:42 pm ]
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P.S. Just to solidify Energy's point, why the F*** were you talking to her about perfumes at work!!!? You basically drowned her out with her boring occupation! As Energy said,if this thread was done in a night venue(bar,etc.),it would've been golden! Never chat up a girl about her occupation unless its to bust on her(neg) about how boring she is...
Author:  Dj. [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:33 am ]
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hey guys thanks for the answers! To clear out something, we werent talking about perfumes :P lol, this is how it started since I was there to get perfume! After that we talked about other stuff, like me studying architecture and her dad being a famous architect etc.. I m not sure the connection was that great and maybe she was just being polite indeed, but she did seem to enjoy it and I m not that bad looking :P
I think you are right that if she 's working I do have to attract her more than usual but still I don't get why she was like that since she knew she would probably never see me again.. I hope she just had a boyfriend :P

I know I failed to attract her but I m trying to understand why! The thing is, we werent connected enough for me to # close but I was leaving so I had to give it a shot otherwise I would never know..
Author:  Energy_ [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:23 pm ]
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A think you should have created a timebridge.
Then smoothly just hand her the phone.

Sounds a easy - I know. But if you done a good job it should have good chances.

Anyways.. She may have a boyfriend, she may not.
"Next on in line! You're up!" ;)
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:30 pm ]
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Guys,why do yall keep stressing that she might have had a bf. Girls will give out their #'s despite having a bf. It's sought of like being polite. Most girls give out their #'s just to be polite and not seem like a stucc-up bitch!! We must realize that #'s arent really that important to girls as we may think. They'd give it out and just not answer when you call. Or they'd answer then make up excuses to have to go then it would eventually fade out. Lot easier to just not give a guy the # but women arent rational so they'd # exchange-just to get rid of you. Best to go for the E-mail instead;its less personal so she'd be more willing to give it.
Author:  Energy_ [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:15 am ]
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Women will never give you a real number to "get rid of you".

And there is a huge diffrence in getting a n-close during the day from someone who is working in a store and has a boyfriend, then someone who is out to party with her girlfriends (who happens to work in a store and has a boyfriend).

I belive that its not such a big deal getting a number from a girl who has boyfriend.
And I too really dont give this a lot of thought either.
But seriously, whats the point going after numbers from girls you probably dont have the opportunity meet in real life?

If I would have met this girl in the store and after talking to me for a while - she didnt wanne get in touch with me - I'd say its her loss. Not mine and never think about it again.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:11 pm ]
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you make a major point Energy about going after #'s of chiccs who you'd never meet.

I've had the urge when I online date(even facebook)to # close chiccs who I'd never see in my life. I guess its a power trip for some of us to # close a target
Author:  Dj. [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:55 pm ]
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It's just for practice man! If I didn't try to n-close her, I wouldnt post here trying to find out what I did wrong, and improving my skills ;)

as simpla as that!
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